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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Cc: c.buhtz@posteo.jp, Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1645935153; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=3vBtnU+rEKJX5vd4tKUbdhBtaKO5/Ld7qzVaf5Fad0M=; b=LdKflxaapj32K96UiEcTywNgYasBxChWAQyQh1GBY1AjKtxbF3f6fGYuFGTiQnZi3OyUZr vrDHNCLXpwcA2EhMRiu//3Tl1R39UsjuttM+jk3z0iNewpk7Z7hNCaC3sH5Vypyf8JnLIh 4IGzOLy0NjambXluFoZv7LWkAyk5IcrRr5Acgo1EDC5A9Zq/3gD7+172B6QWz1yW76LOTW dYUXc2XoXzPaUq+ajRqHxhLqPy+B2Cp+X2x+rWCVyAIObrPeHFDiFrnc0wweXPp62UY3Ap UlwJzbYopnMcUdeHX2/j8++b8TLXlbvqCITIHBngq9+Ae5yeRz1ZkHcd99RwjA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1645935153; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=uXqRGwIPXLKg0YXLCt2fcQmyuP5Zo65zWNLYxCdsIrB/ipNElZ2Yi2+k44YLDwQpS/YHpN 1EjYLpZK9p4yC82BAEm+uvR284R/FOOg3su9861QaNrrTlK9IBnANl+K4OYrpA3NWCQq5t MgttBnUx+ba8OcNll7f7R5iJfKGH2TlPbd6MwDzsn23qjLqSVdzw5rJ9B9Db1ec7IfBj/P xNCzmOixTHQNurHj5NmiwtAREgFE5y/ue/43iDSTZHlUfAd9vtBO/XF2po46wgsk4AwN7v GR5rwF3/O5t4EecGC/5va1DPZJXZfoM3hJp+iZe5b7MhlIW1RNvn5jl0eD9vmw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=Lad6eP4L; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=Lad6eP4L; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C360A2BF57 X-Spam-Score: -6.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: lBt917ZWbGW8 [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I think we should consider two separate issues: (1) whether the > donation mechanism requires users to load non-free Javascript and (2) > whether the support mechanism is from an organization that actually > supports Free Software maintainers and developers. I think both of these criteria are fitting _for a GNU package_. In my own life, I might make payments for various purposes, some which are not about software at all. So I wouldn't insist on (2) when deciding whether to buy something or donate to a cause. But I would always insist on (1). -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)