Help testing orgmode connection to interactive web environment

Help testing orgmode connection to interactive web environment

[Bill Burdick]

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Hi there!

I'm working on an open-source web-based platform for interactive editable
documents that uses orgmode format, called Leisure.  I have minor mode that
connects it to Emacs orgmode buffers so that edits are mirrored between
them.

I've been working on this for quite a while and I'm putting together an
announcement document but I still wouldn't call it robust or complete, yet.

My goal is to put together a video and make an announcement soon but I want
to make sure I have covered a "reasonable amount" of orgmode and also have
a "reasonable amount" of neato functionality, so I'm looking for brave
souls who:

- use orgmode regularly
- want an editable web representation that updates as they edit in Emacs
- won't mind some exciting adventures
- don't mind dirtying their hands with software that's still a bit buggy

Anyone think they might be interested in helping me test this thing and
giving me their impressions?

If you'd like to see what I have, so far, you can view the rough,
unpolished version of my Emacs-to-Leisure document (subject to drastic
change).  At this point, this link is in flux so your mileage may vary:

http://textcraft.org/newLeisure/?load=elisp/README.org


-- Bill Burdick

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Re: Help testing orgmode connection to interactive web environment

[David A. Gershman]

I'm not sure what is supposed to happen, but I went to the link, allowed
Javascript for the textcraft.org domain (via NoScript), and still just
got a blue screen with the title "Loading Leisure..."...nothing else
happened.

I'm running Debian Jessie w/Iceweasel 38.2.0 (repository supplied).


On 08/22/2015 07:49 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> I'm working on an open-source web-based platform for interactive
> editable documents that uses orgmode format, called Leisure.  I have
> minor mode that connects it to Emacs orgmode buffers so that edits are
> mirrored between them.
>
> I've been working on this for quite a while and I'm putting together
> an announcement document but I still wouldn't call it robust or
> complete, yet.
>
> My goal is to put together a video and make an announcement soon but I
> want to make sure I have covered a "reasonable amount" of orgmode and
> also have a "reasonable amount" of neato functionality, so I'm looking
> for brave souls who:
>
> - use orgmode regularly
> - want an editable web representation that updates as they edit in Emacs
> - won't mind some exciting adventures
> - don't mind dirtying their hands with software that's still a bit buggy
>
> Anyone think they might be interested in helping me test this thing
> and giving me their impressions?
>
> If you'd like to see what I have, so far, you can view the rough,
> unpolished version of my Emacs-to-Leisure document (subject to drastic
> change).  At this point, this link is in flux so your mileage may vary:
>
> http://textcraft.org/newLeisure/?load=elisp/README.org  
>
>
> -- Bill Burdick

Re: Help testing orgmode connection to interactive web environment

[Bill Burdick]

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Sorry -- I should have mentioned that it only supports Chromium/Chrome at
the moment!

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:04 PM David A. Gershman <gershman@dagertech.net>
wrote:

> I'm not sure what is supposed to happen, but I went to the link, allowed
> Javascript for the textcraft.org domain (via NoScript), and still just
> got a blue screen with the title "Loading Leisure..."...nothing else
> happened.
>
> I'm running Debian Jessie w/Iceweasel 38.2.0 (repository supplied).
>
>
> On 08/22/2015 07:49 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I'm working on an open-source web-based platform for interactive
> > editable documents that uses orgmode format, called Leisure.  I have
> > minor mode that connects it to Emacs orgmode buffers so that edits are
> > mirrored between them.
> >
> > I've been working on this for quite a while and I'm putting together
> > an announcement document but I still wouldn't call it robust or
> > complete, yet.
> >
> > My goal is to put together a video and make an announcement soon but I
> > want to make sure I have covered a "reasonable amount" of orgmode and
> > also have a "reasonable amount" of neato functionality, so I'm looking
> > for brave souls who:
> >
> > - use orgmode regularly
> > - want an editable web representation that updates as they edit in Emacs
> > - won't mind some exciting adventures
> > - don't mind dirtying their hands with software that's still a bit buggy
> >
> > Anyone think they might be interested in helping me test this thing
> > and giving me their impressions?
> >
> > If you'd like to see what I have, so far, you can view the rough,
> > unpolished version of my Emacs-to-Leisure document (subject to drastic
> > change).  At this point, this link is in flux so your mileage may vary:
> >
> > http://textcraft.org/newLeisure/?load=elisp/README.org
> >
> >
> > -- Bill Burdick
>
>
>

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Re: Help testing orgmode connection to interactive web environment

[Peter Salazar]

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In Chrome:

The show/hide button doesn't seem to do anything.
Clicking CLICKING THIS LINK gives "elisp links not supported."
Edits don't seem to stick.


On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bill Burdick <bill.burdick@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry -- I should have mentioned that it only supports Chromium/Chrome at
> the moment!
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:04 PM David A. Gershman <gershman@dagertech.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what is supposed to happen, but I went to the link, allowed
>> Javascript for the textcraft.org domain (via NoScript), and still just
>> got a blue screen with the title "Loading Leisure..."...nothing else
>> happened.
>>
>> I'm running Debian Jessie w/Iceweasel 38.2.0 (repository supplied).
>>
>>
>> On 08/22/2015 07:49 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:
>> > Hi there!
>> >
>> > I'm working on an open-source web-based platform for interactive
>> > editable documents that uses orgmode format, called Leisure.  I have
>> > minor mode that connects it to Emacs orgmode buffers so that edits are
>> > mirrored between them.
>> >
>> > I've been working on this for quite a while and I'm putting together
>> > an announcement document but I still wouldn't call it robust or
>> > complete, yet.
>> >
>> > My goal is to put together a video and make an announcement soon but I
>> > want to make sure I have covered a "reasonable amount" of orgmode and
>> > also have a "reasonable amount" of neato functionality, so I'm looking
>> > for brave souls who:
>> >
>> > - use orgmode regularly
>> > - want an editable web representation that updates as they edit in Emacs
>> > - won't mind some exciting adventures
>> > - don't mind dirtying their hands with software that's still a bit buggy
>> >
>> > Anyone think they might be interested in helping me test this thing
>> > and giving me their impressions?
>> >
>> > If you'd like to see what I have, so far, you can view the rough,
>> > unpolished version of my Emacs-to-Leisure document (subject to drastic
>> > change).  At this point, this link is in flux so your mileage may vary:
>> >
>> > http://textcraft.org/newLeisure/?load=elisp/README.org
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Bill Burdick
>>
>>
>>

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Re: Help testing orgmode connection to interactive web environment

[Bill Burdick]

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On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM Peter Salazar <cycleofsong@gmail.com> wrote:

> In Chrome:
>
> The show/hide button doesn't seem to do anything.
> Clicking CLICKING THIS LINK gives "elisp links not supported."
> Edits don't seem to stick.
>

Thanks for the feedback, Peter!

Elisp is not supported because it's not connected to your Emacs -- we
haven't published the connection mode to Melpa yet because we wanted some
people to look it over first before I made an actual announcement.

I just put instructions on how to get leisure-connection-mode for Emacs
into the doc.  Until we publish the Melpa package, you can just clone the
GitHub repository if you want to connect to emacs.  The instructions go
over this in more detail.

Show/Hide just toggles visibility for top-level headlines that have the
hidden property set to true and in this document, the only hidden "slide"
(i.e. top-level headline) is the last one, which contains some settings, so
you have to be at the very bottom of the doc to see it that slide show up.

By changes not sticking, do you mean if you refresh the document they
disappear?  This is true because it's just loading a static web page.  If
you pop up Leisure from Emacs, it will be connected to what is in the
buffer, so your changes will persist.  When collaboration works again,
changes will be mirrored to other collaborators (the older version has
collaboration but the new version does not, yet).  For storage, we'll use
OAuth to hook up to GitHub, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc., as we get the
connectors implemented.


-- Bill


On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bill Burdick <bill.burdick@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry -- I should have mentioned that it only supports Chromium/Chrome at
>> the moment!
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:04 PM David A. Gershman <
>> gershman@dagertech.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure what is supposed to happen, but I went to the link, allowed
>>> Javascript for the textcraft.org domain (via NoScript), and still just
>>> got a blue screen with the title "Loading Leisure..."...nothing else
>>> happened.
>>>
>>> I'm running Debian Jessie w/Iceweasel 38.2.0 (repository supplied).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/22/2015 07:49 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:
>>> > Hi there!
>>> >
>>> > I'm working on an open-source web-based platform for interactive
>>> > editable documents that uses orgmode format, called Leisure.  I have
>>> > minor mode that connects it to Emacs orgmode buffers so that edits are
>>> > mirrored between them.
>>> >
>>> > I've been working on this for quite a while and I'm putting together
>>> > an announcement document but I still wouldn't call it robust or
>>> > complete, yet.
>>> >
>>> > My goal is to put together a video and make an announcement soon but I
>>> > want to make sure I have covered a "reasonable amount" of orgmode and
>>> > also have a "reasonable amount" of neato functionality, so I'm looking
>>> > for brave souls who:
>>> >
>>> > - use orgmode regularly
>>> > - want an editable web representation that updates as they edit in
>>> Emacs
>>> > - won't mind some exciting adventures
>>> > - don't mind dirtying their hands with software that's still a bit
>>> buggy
>>> >
>>> > Anyone think they might be interested in helping me test this thing
>>> > and giving me their impressions?
>>> >
>>> > If you'd like to see what I have, so far, you can view the rough,
>>> > unpolished version of my Emacs-to-Leisure document (subject to drastic
>>> > change).  At this point, this link is in flux so your mileage may vary:
>>> >
>>> > http://textcraft.org/newLeisure/?load=elisp/README.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- Bill Burdick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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