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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BDd7K1WQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.29 X-TUID: jBR9SN7BHR0c ***** Hi Ihor Radchenko, > I am wondering what you mean by Org's philosophy. Why would it have anything to do with directories? Org's philosophy is to have one or a handful of directories without nesting of directories. Users are not expected to have their Org files in a deeply nested tree. Org also prefers big files with large trees rather than lots of little files. By philosophy, I mean the dev consensus on the correct way to do things, and coded configuration and usability biases. I know this is Org's philosophy because I violated it thoroughly when writing Treefactor documentation, and was told as much. I can see how it wouldn't be obvious to casual users. Good idea, I'll comment on Voit's article, thanks. ***** Hi Palak Mathur, > it seems overwhelming to have 10 directories. I am not saying it is not good just that I will not be able to handle those. I didn't anticipate this problem. Maybe practicing with Treefactor and Dired would build this muscle over time. The rules are written to be straightforward at filing time. One need only consider one object at a time. Cascade filing means one need only compare the object with one directory at a time. The first match wins. I should emphasize that in the docs. Having all your headings jumbled into three huge files sounds like a state of permanent intractable overwhelm to me. ***** Hi Jean Louis, You are using Hyperscope as your primary PIM but integrating it with Org, and it sounds like you're using PostGreSQL and the directory tree together somehow. I don't fully understand it. Clearly a database can do more than a directory tree alone. The cost is that a database is more complex to use and maintain. So that which can be handled by directory tree alone, should be. > I can find a mining engineer in country Senegal if I wish so, that has some work experience and I can see files pertaining to this person. But not that I would make file system directory Senegal to find the files for this person Of course not. You would find a person under his name, not his country. The person can move to a different country, after all. At most you might link him to the country, as part of a list of people from X country. But that is something better handled by a real database. To clarify, Treefactor is just an Emacs package with some minimal opinions. 10 Bins is an opinionated directory tree template. Neither requires the other, but they're both part of Cyborganize, my overall PIM and publishing system.