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From: Phil Regier <phil.regier@gmail.com>
To: Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Get Grades Done: the joys of Org's simple power
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 20:17:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKO4ir_7aECVbV2MWoExQ1c7wp1JzVg0c8N14J4=1_5XeC0NQg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Oh, my.  I would not have imagined that setting up Emacspeak could be so
complicated.  Was your initial thought that if you could export the
mechanisms in your assignment to interactive HTML (of whatever form) then
you could let the browsers and their various accessibility APIs (of which I
should confess right now I have almost no knowledge) to present that
interactive content in whatever way the consumer of said content has
requested?

I'm far from being an expert, but I've spent my share of time hacking
around and I think there are a variety of ways that one could embed
something like JavaScript (I know, not an ideal choice of languages) in a
variety of ways at several stages in the composition-to-export process that
could render the output "live" if it was sufficiently simple.  And while
I'm especially bad at this part, a long time ago I had limited success
wrapping some transformations in lisp within Org-mode and I've seen others
perform similar trickery with greater success.


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 6:22 PM Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, some teachers are blind, which means Emacspeak, and Spacemax does
> have visual stuff, so Emacspeak may not work well with that. I’ll have to
> try Doom Emacs though, maybe that’ll work better. The bigger problem
> though, is that Emacspeak relies on speech servers, and the one for Windows
> hasn’t been updated in… quite a while. I just want not only myself and
> technically inclined sighted teachers to be able to access this, plus its
> good to have accessible teaching tools no matter what, because you never
> know when another blind person may want to use it later on.
>
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Phil Regier <phil.regier@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A friend showed me Org-mode running in spacemacs a few years back, and I
> was pretty impressed with how well it seemed to be working, though I
> haven't messed with it much myself.  Especially not sure how much sugar it
> offers as far as sharing a particular experience with new users, but at the
> very least you should be able to include basic usage instructions within
> the Org file?
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:56 PM George Mauer <gmauer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You know...I believe some people have gotten emacs running in browser...
>> You could do it by compiling it to wasm. So in theory you could create a
>> completely in-browser emacs which is optimized primarily for org mode usage.
>>
>> Would be kind of an awesome thing for someone to tackle as it would
>> greatly increase the reach of org. Not easy though. Could probably be a
>> whole thesis project.
>>
>> Not sure how well it would work with screen readers and other
>> accessibility tech though. That would be even more work
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 10:24 PM Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 03:38:43PM -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> > Now, I do wish I could share these “self-grading” performance tests
>>> with
>>> > others. I’ve tried exporting one to HTML, but the grade doesn’t seem
>>> to update
>>> > automatically like it does in Org-mode.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately updating the count is performed by a hook in Org when you
>>> use C-c
>>> C-c to check/uncheck a box. That information is static in the text, and
>>> static
>>> in html.
>>>
>>> I'm not aware of a built-in way to handle that case. Sorry.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>>>
>>> PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>>>
>>> Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
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>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-13  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-10 20:38 Get Grades Done: the joys of Org's simple power Devin Prater
2020-06-11  3:22 ` Russell Adams
2020-06-11  3:55   ` George Mauer
2020-06-11  5:47     ` Steven Harris
2020-06-12 23:23     ` Phil Regier
2020-06-13  0:22       ` Devin Prater
2020-06-13  2:17         ` Phil Regier [this message]
2020-06-13  2:45           ` Devin Prater
2020-06-14  9:02             ` Richard Lawrence
2020-06-14 16:05               ` Devin Prater
2020-06-14 16:59                 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-06-14 20:53                   ` Devin Prater
2020-06-20  4:10                     ` Richard Lawrence
2020-09-03 10:09               ` Bastien
2020-06-11  5:36 ` Diego Zamboni
2020-06-12 15:54   ` Leo Okawa Ericson
2020-06-12 17:01     ` Diego Zamboni
2020-06-13  9:10       ` Leo Okawa Ericson
2020-06-13 11:16         ` Diego Zamboni

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