From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: [RFC] Could we get rid of Org specific "mark ring" Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:50:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87o9lcntdq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87po5rxcgq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87fu6nx93a.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bmhbx7z6.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87lggew91v.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87muzy10mg.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50063) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epjaW-0000nF-9v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:50:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epjaV-0007T3-6I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:50:44 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]:35723) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1epjaV-0007SL-1S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:50:43 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 30so13564314iog.2 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 15:50:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87muzy10mg.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: Allen Li , Org Mode List On 2/24/18, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > I do not discuss your needs. not sure what you mean by this. i was replying to your statements about your usage and the global mark ring. >It isn't crazy at all, and works surprising well in practice. to make sure we are on the same page: we seem to be discussing the removal of a feature. this feature is not redundant. key example: in org maint, i can click on a link and, without any cognitive overhead, and with certainty, run a command to get back to the link i clicked on. to me this seems like basic hypertext ability, such as you might find in info or the back button on firefox. i think your change will make this "back button" behavior as stated in the previous paragraph impossible. please correct me if that is not true. [for the bug that seems to have prompted your proposal, we could be discussing pushing to the global and local mark rings. but this does not seem to be what we are discussing.] you have suggested filing a bug report against emacs. but the emacs behavior is ancient. emacs-devel is conservative. emacs changing does not seem much more likely than every nation on earth switching to english as its official language tomorrow. a wrapper to the global mark ring that makes you go to the exact location, plus a backward and forward ability, would be good. however, i am not aware of such a thing. thank you for engaging.