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Mon, 16 Dec 2024 18:09:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8734m28l9a.fsf@gmail.com> <874j4m9ep6.fsf@gmail.com> <87h68gfqj1.fsf@localhost> <87pln3f3cc.fsf@localhost> <87jzd9ojj0.fsf@localhost> <87cyj0ajm9.fsf@gmail.com> <87zfm4s50x.fsf@localhost> <87wmh8s358.fsf@localhost> <87y11nwp9z.fsf@gmail.com> <87v7wd9a2h.fsf@localhost> <878qt7fbki.fsf@gmail.com> <87o71jwdxz.fsf@localhost> <87wmg6edr0.fsf@gmail.com> <87msgzh1dh.fsf@localhost> <87v7vn12tp.fsf@ASCALON.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <878qsifufe.fsf@localhost> <87y10fcy4e.fsf@localhost> In-Reply-To: <87y10fcy4e.fsf@localhost> From: Samuel Wales Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:08:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Panayotis Manganaris , =?UTF-8?Q?Tor=2Dbj=C3=B6rn_Claesson?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic , =?UTF-8?Q?Omar_Antol=C3=ADn_Camarena?= , Jonas Bernoulli , Juri Linkov , karthikchikmagalur@gmail.com, Visuwesh , Justin Burkett Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::133; envelope-from=samologist@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x133.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 00:56:22 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F0F355124A X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.28 X-Spam-Score: -3.28 X-TUID: ZzaqvUeNSoh3 thanks for interest. the transient menu i am trying uses more character columns and lines than window (c-u m-x gptel-send). transient's solution does not work well for me. 1) wrapping - 3 text columns. rightmost text column (header: "Response to") has lines that wrap at rhs (not word) to lhs (not beginning of that text column), putting lines between items in first text column. - (for clarity: by rhs and lhs, i mean where text goes, at smallest usable font, maximized gui frame, no wm decoration, one window in frame, 2 fringes) - BEST SOLUTION FOR ME: wrap at word boundaries, /within each text column/, as is done when one exports org tables to html 2) vertical scrolling - BEST SOLUTION FOR ME: SPC DEL, as is done in org export menu - in transient, SPC and DEL make echo area say ? for help. ? makes the message go away but nothing else changes. another ? brings up the help for function gptel-send. i'd want scrolling. - transient is vertically scrollable using up down arrows and c-v m-v, but those are harder on rsi and harder to locate on my kb than SPC DEL - i did not notice that there are lines below window. if there isn't an indicator, BEST LOCATION FOR ME: left fringe in cases where fringe exists. 3) transient does not allow changing font size with text-scale-increase/decrease (but a smaller font would not be legible) - transient: - Archive: gnu - Version: 0.8.1 - dependency issue before explicitly installing this version. - emacs 29.4 - org 9.7.16 - gptel ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gptel-0.9.6.0.20241115.83706 some current org menus, although REALLY GOOD, have possibly regressed in recent years. in any case, for example, export is scrollable; todo kw is not, so i cannot access some todo kw. i put a lot of effort into this response, hope it makes sense. On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 10:52=E2=80=AFAM Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > Samuel Wales writes: > > > a couple of quick and somewhat obvious comments. i use VERY large > > fonts with a maximized gui emacs [vt / maximized urxvt when needed], > > still resulting in, throughout emacs, often, a smaller number of > > screen lines or columns than content, even with my usual one window > > per frame. most org menus respect this and can be scrolled or > > tweaked. just wanted compatibility to be in the specs. especially, > > to make sure no functionality is unreachable, but also where possible > > to modify column numbers / fill to look ok. i am slowly trying > > transient in gptel and still getting used to it. > > Thanks for the important input! > Does transient look fine on your screen? If yes, we should not have a > problem. > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode maintainer, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com