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Fri, 24 Mar 2023 22:59:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6520:1286:b0:258:a264:8fd6 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2023 22:59:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87cz4yxtia.fsf@localhost> References: <26396316-1201-4D88-9D81-C87DDDA8885A@apple.com> <874jqdowiz.fsf@localhost> <87ileraeqg.fsf@localhost> <87cz4yxtia.fsf@localhost> From: Samuel Wales Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 22:59:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [BUG] Agenda not sorting by priority THEN todo state (todo state ignored) [9.6.1 (9.6.1-??-fe92a3c @ /Users/polofsson/.emacs.d/.local/straight/build-28.2/org/)] To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Jonas Olofsson , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52d; envelope-from=samologist@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -5 X-Spam_score: -0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 56FCE1D497 X-Spam-Score: -7.97 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.97 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-TUID: OOyrRrttfHvV it is all ok with me, but not everybody has personal test cases for sorting sequence, and soembvody might get bitten by a subtle change like this which pop up every once in a while. thus the conflated thing -> 2 names. the old one could be deprecated or so, i was thinking. i get your points though and didn't realize about the docstroing. i have no strong opinion on this; just wanted the idea of disambiguating out there. as long as 2 things are not conflated that's good. On 3/24/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> i find that when 2 things are being conflated, whether in software or >> in anything else, it is useful to change the name of both of them for >> maximum clarity, future git searches, etc. >> >> thus, perhaps i would suggest somthign like this slight tweak instead. >> >> priority-cookie-up >> priority-cookie-and-planning-urgency-up > > I do not like the idea of changing both the names. The current change > will ensure that existing uses of "priority-up"/"priority-down" sorting > strategies won't be affected too much. Forcing every Org user who > customized agenda sorting to change the variable values is not > acceptable. > > Note that the patch, despite changing the actual meaning of > priority-up/down, makes it more conforming with > `org-agenda-sorting-strategy' docstring. So, this change is, in fact, > safe. > >> if not too verbose. reasoning: urgency is occasionally considered >> orthogonal to priority in some philosophies, and some users have >> :urgent: tags. so this might eliminate slightly more confusion in >> principle. > > I am neutral wrt "urgency" term. We can use some other. > > I do not like the verbosity. Even something like > "priority-and-urgency-up/down" sounds awkward, IMHO. > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com