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On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > the copletions window dos notc ontain the link dscription or a > default. there is no tdeafult listed in minibuffer or any tlink > description. so it is 1 orig buffer, which is saller and therefoere > lss useful, 1 links buffer, which is useless beause does not show what > i need, 1 copletions buffer which is useollss befause all it shows is > url prefixes, and a minibuffer which shows nothing. > > On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >> maybe most folk are ok with 3 windows + minibuffer. this is not useful >> to >> me. >> >> On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >>> please feel free to give up if that doesn't get it across. i can't >>> continue a bac and forth for unrelated reasons. >>> >>> On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>> scratch the expanded thing. >>>> >>>> it ends up showing orig smaller less useful, links uselessly >>>> boilerplate, completions -- 3 windows! and a terse minibuffer i >>>> wouldn't be able to use. -q. i cannot use such a ui. >>>> >>>> in contrast, what i expected is orig, and then expanded minibuffer >>>> with, instead of doi: and so on, has useful links as descriotions. >>>> only 1 window, if you don't count minibuffer. >>>> >>>> On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>>> defait cp[;etopm immediately makes 2 windows [orig+links] + expanded >>>>> completion imnibuffer. not useful for me. >>>>> >>>>> On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote: >>>>>> On 02/07/2023 13:03, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>>>>> there is not supposed to be any connection between org refile or org >>>>>>> goto with the code in org insert link. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> completion works to select ol paths for org refile and also for org >>>>>>> refile when it is doing goto. i just want the same for links. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am giving up my attempts to clarify a possible issue with >>>>>> completion >>>>>> by description in `org-insert-link'. It works for me. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/1/23, Max Nikulin wrote: >>>>>>>> On 02/07/2023 12:02, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>>>>>>> another window would not work for me but using completion as i do >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> e.g. refile goto would. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Samuel, you claimed that completion by description does not work >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> `org-insert-link'. I expect that it is fixed in Org-9.6 since I do >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> see the issue with the default completion. It is the reason why I >>>>>>>> asked >>>>>>>> you to confirm that *default completion* works for you as well. I >>>>>>>> suspect that the cause of your problem is either ido or your >>>>>>>> customization. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I see no connection of `org-refile' and `org-goto' with the code in >>>>>>>> `org-insert-link'. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The Kafka Pandemic >>>>> >>>>> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >>>>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Kafka Pandemic >>>> >>>> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >>>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Kafka Pandemic >>> >>> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Kafka Pandemic >> >> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >> > > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic > > A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: > https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com