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On 11/22/22, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes: > >> PS 1: In the manual, I see "backend" and "back-end". So it is an >> issue similar to the "subtree/sub-tree" issue you fixed a few days >> ago, to the "heading/headline" issue that was reported recently, and >> to many similar cases I met in the past. So I was wondering if there >> could exist some (semi-)automatic way which would ensure that future >> maintainers will not inadvertently re-introduce "sub-tree" >> occurrences, or the like. Perhaps some "accepted terminology" list >> that would be checked upon? > > I looked into the manual. It has 197 instances of "back-end" and 24 > instances of "backend". In the code, "backend" is used almost exclusively > in symbol names (except 5 instances), and "back-end" is used in the > docstrings and comments. > > It is actually a bit confusing. > > I am looking at https://techterms.com/definition/backend, and it looks > like "backend" is the correct word we need to use here. Am I missing > something? > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at > > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com