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To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Russell Adams , Org-Mode Mailing List , Corwin Brust , Sacha Chua , Ravi Sagar , Adham Omran Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f1624a060296bac8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::233; envelope-from=oraclmaster@gmail.com; helo=mail-oi1-x233.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 979E138825 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -9.56 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.56 X-TUID: RyMUD0Ql16gS --000000000000f1624a060296bac8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was unable to attend due to a power outage. Is this going to be a monthly/semi monthly meetup? Is the next one scheduled already? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 4:13 AM Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > > > URL: https://bbb.emacsverse.org/b/iho-h7r-qg8-led > > Time & Date: <2023-08-09 Wed 19:00-21:00 @+03,Europe/Istanbul> > > The room will be open half an hour before the official start. > > Thanks everyone who participated! We had quite a few people by Emacs > meetup standards. > > Here is a short summary of the main discussion points (those that I > remember): > > - Adham Omran announced his new package for Anki (flash card/spaced > repetition) integration: > https://github.com/adham-omran/ankifier > Efficiently create Anki flashcards from your notes. > > - Ilya Cheryshov announced his new package to display agenda time grid > as _interactive_ svg image. Looks like the usual Google calendar view, > but inside Emacs. > https://github.com/ichernyshovvv/org-timeblock/ > Org mailing list discussion: > https://list.orgmode.org/87edkc85fl.fsf@localhost/T/#t > > - Similar, but ASCII-only package: > https://github.com/ml729/calfw-blocks, based on Calfw Emacs calendar > framework. > > - More on visualizing Org statistics: > - https://github.com/rksm/clj-org-analyzer/: clocking data visualizer > using web-frontend. Features heatmap view of clocking time > per-day. Allows filtering by tags. > - https://github.com/Elilif/org-heatmap/: monthly heatmap for habit > tracking > - A bit tangent, but illustrates how to make use of time clocking: > https://samplesize.one/blog/posts/my_year_in_data/ > - One more article I did not mention during the meetup: > https://sqrtminusone.xyz/posts/2023-04-13-emacs/ > > - [[info:eintr#Top][eintr#Top]] Elisp introduction for non-programmers. > This is really a > well-written manual worth reading if your config is larger than a few > lines. > > - yantar92's window manager: Awesome WM https://awesomewm.org/ > > - https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg is the source code of Org WIKI (WORG) > [ Contributions welcome: a number of articles really need some love > there ] > - We also have some Org internals documented as articles in WORG. > > - Meeting report export template (backend): > https://github.com/DarkBuffalo/ox-report > which reminded me of actual LaTeX template by Tecosaur (Org dev): > https://github.com/tecosaur/BMC > > - New WIP fast LaTeX preview system with instant preview as you type > - Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn-AfvuV-bYo > - Another demo previously posted on the mailing list: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn-AfvuV-bYo > - And the mailing list discussion with more details: > https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87lek2up0w.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net/ > > - =3D#+begin_src :=3D will give you completion of header arguments > - Same for #+ keywords and, sometimes, for their values (like for > #+TAGS: ) > - The underlying code is in lisp/org-pcomplete.el > - Also, see org-eldoc (part of org-contrib): > https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib/tree/master/item/lisp/org-eldoc.el > > - Collaboration using Org mode > - Concurrent editing options are not great, unfortunately: > - https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el (need Emacs for all sides) > - https://logseq.com/: similar to notion/obsidian, but supports Org > syntax > - Can use Git, if not real-time. Org is just a plain text. > - I also used email workflow using pdf export -> sending email -> > getting pdf with comments back -> modifying Org source -> ... > > - Authoring books/thesis in Org > - Adham Omran wrote his thesis in Arabic using Org mode > - Emacs has built-in right-to-left language support > [[info:emacs#Bidirectional Editing][emacs#Bidirectional Editing]] > - Right-to-left may be mixed with left-to-right (English) in Org > export, though some LaTeX-specific tweaking may be needed. > - Org offers _some_ help with #+LANGUAGE document keyword > (see [[info:org#LaTeX specific export settings][org#LaTeX specifi= c > export settings]]) > - Also, https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87h6z7jq4o.fsf@localhost= / > - There was a question about XeLaTeX, but, AFAIK, event normal > LaTeX can support Arabic and other Unicode languages with > polyglossia package. Although fonts may be tricky to set and a > number of people opt-in to LuaTeX/XeLaTeX for smoother > experience (the downside is that non-LaTeX may not always be an > option in real-life publisher requirements) > - Examples from Org mailing list on complex typesetting while keeping > sources in Org mode > - https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87y1yovcip.fsf@posteo.net/ > - The bi-lingual book I mentioned: > https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87h70tyyiz.fsf@posteo.net/ > > - Adham Omran wrote colemak input method for Arabic (only qwerty-based > variant is available by default in Emacs) > - I suggested submitting it as a patch for Emacs core. > > - On the Emacs fringe indicators showing buffer begin/end > - =E2=86=91=E2=86=93 indicate that there is more text above/below the s= creen > - =EF=BD=A2=EF=BD=A3 indicate begin/end of the buffer text within displ= ayed part of the > buffer > - These can be enabled using ~(setq-default indicate-buffer-boundaries > 'left)~ > > - Using ~helm-org-ql~ for searching across knowledge base, git commits, > and emails > - I modify the default ~org-ql~ search adding a number of shortcuts to > quickly filter by tag/todo keyword > - > https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#trying-or= g-ql > - My modifications are tailored to my own fork of org-ql: > https://github.com/yantar92/org-ql > - Although the particular special feature I used here (custom > default org-ql predicate) is already implemented upstream, > though using different defcustom. > - I have a custom helm search, unifying org-ql, notmuch search > (for emails), and git commit search > - > https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#helm-org-= ql > - I also add custom helm actions to insert bookmark/commit/email > Urls or Org links right from helm search. > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at > > --000000000000f1624a060296bac8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Was unable to attend due to a power outage. Is this going= to be a monthly/semi monthly meetup? Is the next one scheduled already?
On = Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 4:13 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> URL: https://bbb.emacsverse.org/b/iho-h7= r-qg8-led
> Time & Date: <2023-08-09 Wed 19:00-21:00 @+03,Europe/Istanbul&g= t;
> The room will be open half an hour before the official start.

Thanks everyone who participated! We had quite a few people by Emacs
meetup standards.

Here is a short summary of the main discussion points (those that I
remember):

- Adham Omran announced his new package for Anki (flash card/spaced
=C2=A0 repetition) integration:
=C2=A0 https://github.com/adham-omran/ankifier=
=C2=A0 Efficiently create Anki flashcards from your notes.

- Ilya Cheryshov announced his new package to display agenda time grid
=C2=A0 as _interactive_ svg image. Looks like the usual Google calendar vie= w,
=C2=A0 but inside Emacs.
=C2=A0 https://github.com/ichernyshovvv/or= g-timeblock/
=C2=A0 Org mailing list discussion: https://list.orgmode.org/87edkc85fl.fsf@localhost/T/#t

=C2=A0 - Similar, but ASCII-only package:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://github.com/ml729/calfw-blocks<= /a>, based on Calfw Emacs calendar framework.

- More on visualizing Org statistics:
=C2=A0 - https://github.com/rksm/clj-org-analyze= r/: clocking data visualizer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 using web-frontend. Features heatmap view of clocking time =C2=A0 =C2=A0 per-day. Allows filtering by tags.
=C2=A0 - https://github.com/Elilif/org-heatmap/= : monthly heatmap for habit tracking
=C2=A0 - A bit tangent, but illustrates how to make use of time clocking: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://samplesize.one/bl= og/posts/my_year_in_data/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - One more article I did not mention during the meetup:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://sqrtminusone= .xyz/posts/2023-04-13-emacs/

- [[info:eintr#Top][eintr#Top]] Elisp introduction for non-programmers. Thi= s is really a
=C2=A0 well-written manual worth reading if your config is larger than a fe= w
=C2=A0 lines.

- yantar92's window manager: Awesome WM https://awesomewm.org/<= /a>

- https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg is the source code of Org WI= KI (WORG)
=C2=A0 [ Contributions welcome: a number of articles really need some love = there ]
=C2=A0 - We also have some Org internals documented as articles in WORG.
- Meeting report export template (backend):
=C2=A0 https://github.com/DarkBuffalo/ox-report
=C2=A0 which reminded me of actual LaTeX template by Tecosaur (Org dev): https://github.com/tecosaur/BMC

- New WIP fast LaTeX preview system with instant preview as you type
=C2=A0 - Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch= ?v=3Dn-AfvuV-bYo
=C2=A0 - Another demo previously posted on the mailing list:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3Dn-AfvuV-bYo
=C2=A0 - And the mailing list discussion with more details: https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87lek2= up0w.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net/

- =3D#+begin_src :<tab>=3D will give you completion of header argumen= ts
=C2=A0 - Same for #+ keywords and, sometimes, for their values (like for #+= TAGS: <tab>)
=C2=A0 - The underlying code is in lisp/org-pcomplete.el
=C2=A0 - Also, see org-eldoc (part of org-contrib): https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib/tree/mas= ter/item/lisp/org-eldoc.el

- Collaboration using Org mode
=C2=A0 - Concurrent editing options are not great, unfortunately:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt= .el (need Emacs for all sides)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - https://logseq.com/: similar to notion/obsidian, b= ut supports Org syntax
=C2=A0 - Can use Git, if not real-time. Org is just a plain text.
=C2=A0 - I also used email workflow using pdf export -> sending email -&= gt;
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 getting pdf with comments back -> modifying Org source -&g= t; ...

- Authoring books/thesis in Org
=C2=A0 - Adham Omran wrote his thesis in Arabic using Org mode
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Emacs has built-in right-to-left language support
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [[info:emacs#Bidirectional Editing][emacs#Bidirectiona= l Editing]]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Right-to-left may be mixed with left-to-right (English) in = Org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 export, though some LaTeX-specific tweaking may be nee= ded.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Org offers _some_ help with #+LANGUAGE document keyw= ord
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (see [[info:org#LaTeX specific export settings]= [org#LaTeX specific export settings]])
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Also, https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87h6z7jq4o.fsf@localhost/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - There was a question about XeLaTeX, but, AFAIK, event norma= l
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 LaTeX can support Arabic and other Unicode languages w= ith
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 polyglossia package. Although fonts may be tricky to s= et and a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 number of people opt-in to LuaTeX/XeLaTeX for smoother=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 experience (the downside is that non-LaTeX may not alw= ays be an
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 option in real-life publisher requirements)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Examples from Org mailing list on complex typesetting while= keeping sources in Org mode
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - https:/= /list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87y1yovcip.fsf@posteo.net/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - The bi-lingual book I mentioned:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ht= tps://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87h70tyyiz.fsf@posteo.net/

- Adham Omran wrote colemak input method for Arabic (only qwerty-based
=C2=A0 variant is available by default in Emacs)
=C2=A0 - I suggested submitting it as a patch for Emacs core.

- On the Emacs fringe indicators showing buffer begin/end
=C2=A0 - =E2=86=91=E2=86=93 indicate that there is more text above/below th= e screen
=C2=A0 - =EF=BD=A2=EF=BD=A3 indicate begin/end of the buffer text within di= splayed part of the buffer
=C2=A0 - These can be enabled using ~(setq-default indicate-buffer-boundari= es 'left)~

- Using ~helm-org-ql~ for searching across knowledge base, git commits, and= emails
=C2=A0 - I modify the default ~org-ql~ search adding a number of shortcuts = to quickly filter by tag/todo keyword
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#trying-= org-ql
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - My modifications are tailored to my own fork of org-= ql: https://github.com/yantar92/org-ql
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Although the particular special feature I used here = (custom
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 default org-ql predicate) is already implemente= d upstream,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 though using different defcustom.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - I have a custom helm search, unifying org-ql, notmuch searc= h
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (for emails), and git commit search
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - https://github.com/yantar92/emacs-config/blob/master/config.org#he= lm-org-ql
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - I also add custom helm actions to insert bookmark/co= mmit/email
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Urls or Org links right from helm search.

--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
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