It does happen anyway. I had that in to get around this issue a while ago (long story, but it is why we still run 8.2.10), and I still get the issue without it. I think I have figured it out. The order the packages are installed is important. The code below illustrates the issue for me. If I install org-plus-contrib first, the issue goes away. Note the first thing the pydoc package does is: (require 'org), which I guess interferes with subsequent building of org. (I am using GNU Emacs 25.1.50.1). Also, you need to have (R . t) in there. that specifically triggers the error. (setq user-emacs-directory "./sandbox/") (require 'package) (setq package-archives '(("org" . "http://orgmode.org/elpa/") ("gnu" . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/") ("melpa" . "http://melpa.org/packages/"))) (package-initialize) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'pydoc) (package-install 'org-plus-contrib) (org-babel-do-load-languages 'org-babel-load-languages '((emacs-lisp . t) (R . t) )) (message "done") John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Aaron Ecay writes: > > This looks like the kind of problem that results when org is > byte-compiled > > in an emacs with a different version of org loaded. This used to be a > > problem when installing via package.el (and not just for org), but I > think > > there has been some work put into making sure it doesn’t happen any more. > > (I know emacs developers were discussing them and then they seemed to go > > away so I assumed they were fixed...it’s possible I was mistaken though.) > > No, this is bug #10125 and the others that it was merged with (most > recently #21267, with the exact same error message as John got). > > > If I had to guess, I’d say that line 63 of packages.el in your jmax > > setup defeats these fixes. Try commenting it out. It should not be > > necessary to manually byte-compile packages: package.el should do that > > for you. And in this case, I hypothesize that it is actually harmful. > > Yes it is. Although I'd venture to guess that it would have happened > anyway. > > > Regards, > Achim. > -- > +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ > > Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: > http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables > > >