From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id OGnqKIy1r19EbQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:46:36 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 2L24JIy1r1/UZAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:46:36 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13CDF9404E0 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdt4k-0005UM-0L for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 05:46:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60398) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdt4M-0005UC-71 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 05:46:10 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::536]:37334) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdt4I-0004SR-QU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 05:46:09 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id cq7so13722717edb.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 02:46:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zzamboni-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sv1HKHcellTYUcj6fVsrjerfO9CrJC7wxt11FRiX4Wg=; b=tPZE7/UvzeMW4agavnygmomFhDxLQ/34RAx87tgz40E1FGtW6WX6hG24KzkdRIuv9v xhA2VMmxYc20FuWSN2dhX0XcZ9ITkkUvs3Ac8782R/x/HLBls7j7355mhyIJbJMouS4K LR10vjRLCO3BNpZPIGdnCCwIEaI0xyiRWk5SScpuWJenhZhx52L2XaWPkly4BuczhM3e NdYq3OtrdfHCnyCC1M6oqDPOcvCsftdjQXMIDYir9wnmm5KKrreNqIv/f3k3PGPAN7/j M1DfH4CLLY2kqfsYvDlUhyf/Ulr4qw0RXgXpbog1VN0x4tItv1NPPLIaGpMcBGvqjzk/ 3ayw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sv1HKHcellTYUcj6fVsrjerfO9CrJC7wxt11FRiX4Wg=; b=VO0e+uBAyGIqfpJQiEsljmmXIZiITFd8LIGAkW44zB1LtW7PVLAOyi0jR1Vt4Wpxlu cMimN+JdH6uQj0NOJ80vfIPu7ImLQFDVbh8ezlmmdZs/FDrQN4AvW2jPoR5Zxz0BN27x q7TGbcv4dpBHvae99IRaEsPQtbxL1g5TlN+wP+GrnCdc7KMv5re3OowKFRfiXxD8wLp2 xAC7U4o4mfIcPnjFytxCo95DUaPKtihZPpP0bhJzVzsvyFmRCyBfKZ6zIxqz02cI0dSi XFR89M+2pbNrgO5a/XCIb1ktq+uc9DyYS7P5aQWaFD7tknFahIvR/kzGdAS829SRRWTf oDDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532v2pCD5mzLFcxKagtgLvQ7e+LhZz3du7mglZTiGRIDhWfnCH/c WW93cQGtKOzP3QcKSATJg+RVjmoGCRUCeZ6rIdcAiw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJydffiBLpwL/4AucmhcVwZT1cKyTXrwLvCzlJz9MR2QGuDK+TIPNYG6jFQr9b1Tk3OLOmZLHQeAXaR4gDZ7E1c= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:a46:: with SMTP id bt6mr7232072edb.101.1605350764677; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 02:46:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2020-11-13T18-23-43@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <871rgxotcv.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <871rgxotcv.fsf@gmail.com> From: Diego Zamboni Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:45:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert? To: Gustavo Barros Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000011ac0605b40edada" Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::536; envelope-from=diego@zzamboni.org; helo=mail-ed1-x536.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Karl Voit , Org-mode , Karl Voit Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=zzamboni-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=tPZE7/Uv; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 2.49 X-TUID: Nrot2LowCiCF --00000000000011ac0605b40edada Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Gustavo, Thanks for the pointer! I noticed this change some time ago, but it hadn't bothered me so much as to go look how to fix it - now you gave me the solution :) Cheers, --Diego On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:11 PM Gustavo Barros wrote: > Hi Karl, > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:30, Karl Voit wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I'm on Org mode maint git repo, currently v9.3.6. > > > > I recently upgraded from an older git commit version. > > > > Since the upgrade I do have a different behavior: > > > > - Consider this list itemX > > A 1 > > 2 > > > > When I press RET at the "X" above, I end up at position "1". With > > another RET, cursor ends up at "2". I'd love to get back the > > previous behavior where RET at "X" always ended up at "A". > > > > Unfortunately, there are tons of org*indent* variables out there. > > I'd appreciate it very much if somebody knows what variable I need > > to modify to get back to the previous behavior. > > > > Thanks! > > I'll answer, because I feel somewhat responsible for your upgrade. ;-) > > Since recently Org is set to respect Emacs' `eletric-indent-mode'. If > I'm not mistaken, it made to the 9.4 release, I presume that's what you > are getting. > > You can find the Org News entry, and how to get the previous behavior > back in: > https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/etc/ORG-NEWS#L323 > > A couple of threads that might help understand the change and the > reasoning behind it: > https://orgmode.org/list/877dxpazbo.fsf_-_@gmail.com/ > https://orgmode.org/list/878sfbycip.fsf@iki.fi/ > > HTH, > Gustavo. > > --00000000000011ac0605b40edada Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gustavo,

Thanks for the pointer! I n= oticed this change some time ago, but it hadn't bothered me so much as = to go look how to fix it - now you gave me the solution :)

Cheers,
--Diego


On Fri, Nov 13, 2020= at 10:11 PM Gustavo Barros <gusbrs.2016@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Karl,

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:30, Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> wrote:=

> Hi!
>
> I'm on Org mode maint git repo, currently v9.3.6.
>
> I recently upgraded from an older git commit version.
>
> Since the upgrade I do have a different behavior:
>
> - Consider this list itemX
> A 1
> 2
>
> When I press RET at the "X" above, I end up at position &quo= t;1". With
> another RET, cursor ends up at "2". I'd love to get back= the
> previous behavior where RET at "X" always ended up at "= A".
>
> Unfortunately, there are tons of org*indent* variables out there.
> I'd appreciate it very much if somebody knows what variable I need=
> to modify to get back to the previous behavior.
>
> Thanks!

I'll answer, because I feel somewhat responsible for your upgrade. ;-)<= br>
Since recently Org is set to respect Emacs' `eletric-indent-mode'.= =C2=A0 If
I'm not mistaken, it made to the 9.4 release, I presume that's what= you
are getting.

You can find the Org News entry, and how to get the previous behavior
back in:
https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-m= ode/src/master/etc/ORG-NEWS#L323

A couple of threads that might help understand the change and the
reasoning behind it:
https://orgmode.org/list/877dxpazbo.fsf_-_@gmai= l.com/
https://orgmode.org/list/878sfbycip.fsf@iki.fi/
HTH,
Gustavo.

--00000000000011ac0605b40edada--