From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "briangpowell ." Subject: Re: org-ref video Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 23:02:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877fk5rg1r.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> <87a8oznbpw.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11352d4a0ea0820527b1066a Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCJaI-0005rS-K3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 23:02:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCJaH-0004KQ-1A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 23:02:30 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]:36614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCJaG-0004KM-R5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 23:02:28 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-x235.google.com with SMTP id o62so139992973oif.3 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 20:02:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a8oznbpw.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nick Dokos Cc: emacs-orgmode --001a11352d4a0ea0820527b1066a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm absolutely sure that I read it somewhere--its "Lay-Teck"--and again; if you think about it, that's what it ought to be. Hilarious "La" isn't from "Lamport"--very funny though. I agree though, this is up to me to prove; but, don't hold your breath--it may be hard to find--I have books to the ceiling in every room in my house--and many on TeX and its derivatives. On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Nick Dokos wrote: > "briangpowell ." writes: > > > I believe I read how to correctly pronounce LaTeX as Lay-Teck (and why > > its important--to honor the creator of TeX's wishes+intentions, Donald > > Knuth) in Leslie Lamport's book onLaTeX--in the preface. > > The TeX FAQ (http://www.tex.ac.uk/FAQ-latexpronounce.html) contradicts > you: > > ,---- > | How should I pronounce =E2=80=9CLaTeX(2e)=E2=80=9D? > | > | Lamport never recommended how one should pronounce LaTeX, but a lot of > | people pronounce it =E2=80=98Lay TeX=E2=80=99 or perhaps =E2=80=98Lah T= eX=E2=80=99 (with TeX pronounced > | as the program itself; see the rules for TeX). It is definitely not to > | be pronounced in the same way as the rubber-tree gum (which would be > | =E2=80=98lay teks=E2=80=99). > | > | The LaTeX2e logo is supposed to end with an =CE=B5; nevertheless, most = people > | pronounce the name as =E2=80=98LaTeX-two-ee=E2=80=99. > `---- > > Lamport's first edition is packed away so I can't check it right now, > but the second edition preface certainly does not say anything about > the pronunciation of LaTeX. > > > Small note, feel free to ignore it (one and all); but, "LaTeX" is > properly > > pronounced: "Lay-Teck"--since its a macro language which "lays on top o= f > > TeX"--the TeX part you pronounced correctly, which is the part that > really > > matters (Tau-Epsilon-Chi). > > and > > > And when you think about it, pronouncing it as "Lay" does make sense > "La" only means "the" > > in some romance Languages and the "L" and "A" don't stand for anything > in particular > > either--LA isn't an acronym--and it has no "foreign language" meaning. > Its not "The > > TeX"--TeX is "The TeX"--the lowest primal language itself, programmed i= n > C. > > > > I believe you are overthinking this. > > I have never seen any evidence for either of these statements: > > o that LaTeX is pronounced Lay-Teck (or Lay-Tekh if we follow Knuth's > direction of adding moisture to the screen) because it "lays on top > of TeX" (btw, are you quoting somebody else here? or quoting yourself?) > > o that there is some connection between the "La" in LaTeX and the > article in some romance languages. > > Do you have any independent evidence for either of these? > > Here is another interpretation which IMO is more likely than anything > you have presented (but is equally unsupported by actual evidence): the > "La" in LaTeX comes from the "La" in Lamport. > > -- > Nick > > > --001a11352d4a0ea0820527b1066a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm absolutely sure that I read it somewhere--its &quo= t;Lay-Teck"--and again; if you think about it, that's what it ough= t to be.

Hilarious "La" isn't from "L= amport"--very funny though.

I agree though, t= his is up to me to prove; but, don't hold your breath--it may be hard t= o find--I have books to the ceiling in every room in my house--and many on = TeX and its derivatives.



On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 9:= 49 AM, Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> wrote:
"briangpowell ." <briangpowellms@gmail.com> writes:<= br>
> I believe I read how to correctly pronounce LaTeX as Lay-Teck (and why=
> its important--to honor the creator of TeX's wishes+intentions, Do= nald
> Knuth) in Leslie Lamport's book onLaTeX--in the preface.

The TeX FAQ (http://www.tex.ac.uk/FAQ-latexpronou= nce.html) contradicts you:

,----
| How should I pronounce =E2=80=9CLaTeX(2e)=E2=80=9D?
|
| Lamport never recommended how one should pronounce LaTeX, but a lot of | people pronounce it =E2=80=98Lay TeX=E2=80=99 or perhaps =E2=80=98Lah TeX= =E2=80=99 (with TeX pronounced
| as the program itself; see the rules for TeX). It is definitely not to | be pronounced in the same way as the rubber-tree gum (which would be
| =E2=80=98lay teks=E2=80=99).
|
| The LaTeX2e logo is supposed to end with an =CE=B5; nevertheless, most pe= ople
| pronounce the name as =E2=80=98LaTeX-two-ee=E2=80=99.
`----

Lamport's first edition is packed away so I can't check it right no= w,
but the second edition preface certainly does not say anything about
the pronunciation of LaTeX.

> Small note, feel free to ignore it (one and all); but, "LaTeX&quo= t; is properly
> pronounced: "Lay-Teck"--since its a macro language which &qu= ot;lays on top of
> TeX"--the TeX part you pronounced correctly, which is the part th= at really
> matters (Tau-Epsilon-Chi).

and

> And when you think about it, pronouncing it as "Lay" does ma= ke sense "La" only means "the"
> in some romance Languages and the "L" and "A" don&= #39;t stand for anything in particular
> either--LA isn't an acronym--and it has no "foreign language&= quot; meaning.=C2=A0 Its not "The
> TeX"--TeX is "The TeX"--the lowest primal language itse= lf, programmed in C.
>

I believe you are overthinking this.

I have never seen any evidence for either of these statements:

o that LaTeX is pronounced Lay-Teck (or Lay-Tekh if we follow Knuth's direction of adding moisture to the screen) because it "lays on top of TeX" (btw, are you quoting somebody else here? or quoting yourself?= )

o that there is some connection between the "La" in LaTeX and the=
article in some romance languages.

Do you have any independent evidence for either of these?

Here is another interpretation which IMO is more likely than anything
you have presented (but is equally unsupported by actual evidence): the
"La" in LaTeX comes from the "La" in Lamport.

--
Nick



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