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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619215729; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=pwt22iBLNPKTKu9Ta//ho29rrEim8T+RPhB9gKBK2IQ=; b=rjQvHUOSwD3NpaohXOLKARSlP+Wi2UXsMvXqPBtCXrozLHJDg4tsxmG1GaZERQIq640Me8 ZkLdBsr8QnNfbKCU55DCjGdpd7qtdzC6BXRy9xod5cr/Z0Ul6X7L8pZh0UwIZ9lCBBq1jJ kZ/xRiGN7G1n23iR4t1Z4wVF4gHWHjSwjxo0Ylvb6o3sLhfs1OsglmPSPv4qm2tMsVUeYo Wl/79U+/wQ47CF4/Q9v64g8rphIdf3U5MLLttHLo2Hi7KnTDbpiBU3ba2gkjotgZ6L7gfY sdLAKQ5OZc6OOs3afE93X1NpKRPBXLtS256zPAb6cemIkzS5X2iUneffRXWxUQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619215729; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=UlCj8r8FnGzSo8cSb0J7BU6BY9RW8nU0hpmKSjOKUMbzjf4+FKQyXhGj7OwNYTpr67kgHe 6k6W0C8mub6yELnocDinVLHqHVd77zTbRsiaSTaZ4Fk/Rt+sLSeUDI+b/Nt24WR+PyPWzb JNa9uz9PMImmv8nlC0YA+ELWQVqEt4Wyd+v+MT6ecXgogdvtlLfGUDW6L2UVwdIpjzoEGd SqaI10+9gZ1KPCmeo/qDR7HWZmKxk3C0o3ilDRQ8fybiG9LYGDm+UyYfTN+XnibDicg6cN iIVzyaR7Ke9VOhau2EhEG4KUM5/xP5i7aEogerbMpledXZdMLP6TpBdlNgE1fg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IR1Wyzgs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IR1Wyzgs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E214E17652 X-Spam-Score: -3.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: SjWMMQncZ/rW On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 9:24 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it doesn't seem this is > documented. It obviously should be. > > And I don't remember if that convention is locale-specific; e.g. if > while that's the standard in English, it could be different in France. > > In any case, this sort of punctuation modification should be possible. I added an issue on this to the CSL docs repo, and got this very helpful comment from Denis Meier. https://github.com/citation-style-language/documentation/issues/139#issuecomment-825934813 Upshot: yes, these punctuation conventions do vary by locale. Bruce