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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622127862; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Rbc4KmYdxTCl6n8fclwLZ+0VM7vJy3Zs5fe5HQNFMYU=; b=Fh4My6xhJWXBSzBzCv+Ap1ykHWyf2IB3c1iRhQI5qUFZ8UKmul9ltdEtiXGiaF8FmNuCSS 3fxG02rXtCotV4UxvpKE59IEaldnKqHslxVxrx0aInHuhzrL7cgJKVIbEi8XVZ65Kop1o5 XH9STTNyUueZwJDIpmKT8oaXdQ1699bve9kZ5pmWxMboCk6V4wiergWn7IjrjHnyhK/cdw 5OCGEZU15BHDMrqVkxYcwsMhKysHUIE4jPPuEU0Al9pGr4N4De2fkjhBFPLYXcX8zZ5Kjc 58txsrRxPm+9gO7AMH9H1gTy0SWffOd00vuHsecpmTgVduRDmycSqeP90UukFQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622127862; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HvdXcI7tbPINXPR8pVfqZgYVJw0EHN64DJtGEh0mVd6Dy1QYHT/ldyYSyV8TxCfuiGPPZL 3/l1IQxosIEBXCgmvWlN3P9BhjDexxHjtwSDJeuo4yzS8gqdwL7fhyN1wVALXlG0YBk+bW 5iYZP3vlUtL4mHY3fAwtgFF2hIpFzAPaLtsU1aMivprhQ3ePUf7PHVbHYvbNhFPNRVDs// aNbBi9D8thLs6qhro2YEIXtD/lNQi+EHCd1gBVbvt+cF2SuzmOi1aWvNMpQK9Ra2HODB1Y 5dztdG7LRAJfr6fEr4NwWAhWz8ifnrrReeLDWet8GN6QZ/LXKyvcWPUgZt0Lrw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=avAZeNZd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=avAZeNZd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 565E527215 X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ZpHDIAmRVD7m On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:34 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:18 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > > I was expecting (not to say I should have necessarily) in this case: > > > > [cite:@doe p23] > > > > ... that either "p23" is recognized as a locator, or as a suffix > > string for the citation reference. > > To be clear, Nicolas, your change to the regex this today, however, > does recognize that as a locator, so this specific example is a > non-issue ATM. Although, users should probably be encouraged to use the "p.1" syntax, so it's consistent with one or a range. One other thing I tested just now not yet accounted for: a locator whose values is a list; for example, that renders as (Doe 2019, pp. 23, 25). Is there an easy way to handle that? If not, it would seem even more important to output that as a suffix string, so users can still get the output they want? One other question: Right now, citeproc-el, and hence also oc-csl, only supports the "bare" variant. Would it be feasible, and make sense, to fall back all "bare" variants to "bare" for now? So this: [cite//bare-caps:@latexcompanion] ... would render as: Doe 2019 Bruce