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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619355092; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=wUN/KKa4d0aaWQPv9wsqd01ucIY222Gl21KpzOiHpCI=; b=Ei7W/vr5KvM5TucPGKCiUzugdItpRhF3PCXi8YZYq6Y7rXxWDBe8Na6yYprP19OZJsjd5H t+mw0fD5dVrpoJHiFeSt03gTZkxl8BRq1FJWajF4FxklDwgsYF3ZGh8PRrBWSOhMdb0yMM ERindhlEYvFJVB8S1HwPELN2+303toDgVzftXTn43mRgf9Jtiv0pP/NrD+xRTtSkr59V4R 2l30IzviWKVSrud/tCG9F978KBdVlyWFG3ApPC3FMs3q/5Lgs55RVk8ZpL4wmrItS6EOjw WlbJzYLCviiq9E8t0hQMNeppHxdXukWPTfuD13740zYvHaIL/DM/ZRVsEgycXw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619355092; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Q4yCtLTzERqThlTvZopFrDKtD7+3CecLpMan9dhYRUT3PTznSZIbjScLfRXdxUo+iVLJdt 4C/JA45B4TWsvbyKR0q4sjtxV5+nniDQQykXH0z2XgVNUMQP0ALBAbOK2+oOqfHUXYWgxd oShxJz0ua9s+37dipLRhwGB64w507OdLZOZYIgPJHG9i3IhRa81ZS8TaNoemSAZ4ndyLhH Vk6Ul+IaNTmeBxHqMpz5YI272fBF4Lq010E89Vm5RRL5qkJJuDInYoQYHOSr5c2saoQ0Hu hZvPcviISdgioyr6j3wWMqIc7wQNp9C7wZijYCCap/sDhRSnHbHU5+KNk6Ub0A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=n9RplJlY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=n9RplJlY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 348F913CFF X-Spam-Score: -3.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: j7v+jCIr0/Xt On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 1:55 AM Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi wrote: > > Dear All, > > my 2c on this issue: citeproc-el supports per cite author suppression > under the hood, but citeproc-org always maps "suppress author" mode > citations to suppressing only the first cite, because my impression > was also that this is a citation-level option. How would you deal with these? #+begin_example [cite/-:@doe20; @doe21] [cite/-:@doe20; see also @smith19] [cite/text:@doe20; see also @smith19] #+end_example My thought is you want to treat the author of the first listed cite as suppressed, or placed in-text in the last case, but that you wouldn't touch the other author? Bruce