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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622597180; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=8yyROZHRL+inAHbtcUlXnnvo+9WVbI5LW+KC5Tppl5Q=; b=cqfJ+otvqle/kX3472GpIx3kq5N1ZHrgt/pNqs0T07wDy8q99N7sC+iRgo+5LQinchZqOE OPDdpBCi21UpUeuj0mJAtLrgdgQLilgvexvQ85R4dwgdX6zbmE7yN89DdFtArEGGHfc+vc NMhSNyGuSK764b64AomFr9M0VcOkemnNQ49SI32upCDgUmSrEU/XRkB75otrH9GB3r4SFW 4Ag9h96G7iRAb0Vkx4cnBtC7e9z7EIZOZQqlisfwExY2rpOqZm/jzyKq9XJkII3n9sD1lK O6u+b6i1pbYG+XVcQWnogaotIik0pcnUaJPWwAYe9MgBloqjbLhyYzzxc0YWyg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622597180; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fhpASoL1Z5O3MM3szCl2N7ZSw6bSVANsAB6Ld1/TJAmy+05Yjc6raY4wWsrjzf19g1fU6u Zmk+17ppGKohPQ0CTSRXOBCqEI+9hsR4qeKWaQJs8ixvQTO2n7/A38mZG2JLUXDqgGz3Gf eMYU/GDdcqgfyZIUuwf3V2QF5wqP49NZCx7GC5A7kTFT5wqxcj46d5KzFn0b4HlqbZG8eK UqQzuFZEVRoom9ad1p6b0uWINpjmwGEZIX5jRStOWt38x/sdZbWOrnZQ5xncooptj4Jh5e 37G2FAbczAcXplFSgiI43UxbcseitN8MK7xBuchK998X41ah49OdrJ9VjrT4rA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dhvc9bfZ; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dhvc9bfZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4EF23284EF X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: jyPoPAsggGXm On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 9:09 PM Scott Randby wrote: > As a constant user of Org's LaTeX export capability, this change would break my ability to export to PDF, and it would be difficult for me to fix. I don't support this change. Can you explain this, Scott? Why would anything "break'? And for those that think this is a bad idea, suggested alternatives? With the status quo; new org-cite users will run latex/pdf output process and will be surprised by the results, as there will be no citations or bibliography. I suppose the easy solution is a prominent note in the documentation. Bruce