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Another question about where to allow cite elements. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 4:18 PM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > So this is a tentative request/question; I'm not really sure the best > approach here. > > This is based on discussion with one of the org-roam-bibtex developers > about what the proper way to indicate an org-roam note is a > bibliographic note; e.g. a note about a bibliographic source. > > Traditionally in org-roam, that is in a property drawer; like: > > :ROAM_REFS: cite:wallace-wells2019 > > That is using org-ref syntax there. > > So the obvious question is should one just put an org-cite citation > there to do the same thing? > > Right now, the answer is clearly no, since they aren't allowed in > property drawers. > > But perhaps they should be, just as any link can be? > > Except if they are, I recognize, they need to be treated as special > cases; e.g ignored for the purposes of export and such. > > WDYT? > > Bruce