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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e34 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=default; t=1586521398; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=R3AGcboxCiUpnebjO8UPQVEUSTSvP1TZsO0rFllsRmM=; b=DH1RjU7xWCBePTahhx2NjU2tc+8lBoc8iqnxrfy+PqsuMQEEjyBremENgj6Eno9KoRRHm4 h6d9yhTY1Zqhktx3Uwab+xo/hTdldM9YnH+9QNaBDOu40XuBbQ5udI9HcfFBKYc+F6wlFk 4t9K1wARvNsvNm7pg4bOly1ieq09uf4= ARC-Seal: i=1; s=default; d=yhetil.org; t=1586521398; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=s8Rdv8LnS6EidYU1WLL6s/hmBAwNW9Ip7QvFYjRfacXO9YAsKlXPzPNuTZHfmJZQ4acqy0 5zJqbBS2uSgDRLbOw6/J8Pt5DJhFywnREDZ2IHxbfLSYDaofT2cr1hZGR0btDURpqNNzyZ lXM0C7tQ3tfHB0K9shqYfjbtGVAMdpU= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=V0cbVOlc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.71 Authentication-Results: aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=V0cbVOlc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.71 / 13.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.58021811732401]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.30), country: US(-0.01), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.58)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bdarcus@gmail.com,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[emacs-orgmode@gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: ch2UvLVzeP+e On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:30 AM wrote: ... > [Para [Cite [Citation {citationId = "doe", citationPrefix = [], citationSuffix = [], citationMode = NormalCitation, citationNoteNum = 0, citationHash = 0}] [Str "[@doe]"]] I just wanted to add a quick note on this, in case anyone is wondering: That `citationNoteNum` key there would be used internally where the style "class" was "note-based"; as in, where the processor was generating citations as footnotes. In the CSL implementations I'm aware of (pandoc-citeproc with markdown and org docs, or Zotero with LibreWrtier or MS Word), one can go back-and-forth between "note-based" and "in-text" without modifying the markdown source. The code is smart enough to know the different between a citation in the text (that needs to be "footnoted"), and a citation already in a footnote (which simply renders to be rendered, without adding a new footnote), and how to get the correct footnote numbering across the output document. Bruce