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* Is there any orgmode ChangeLog workalike (with enhancements)?
@ 2019-09-24 18:06 Alan E. Davis
  2019-09-24 20:06 ` Alan E. Davis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2019-09-24 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode

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[I posted almost this exact message to emacs-help by mistake.]

Many times I have envisioned having an org-mode function that works
similarly to ChangeLog, to save notes as something like a 00_README.org
file in-place, in any directory in which I am working.   Maybe my
imagination has just escaped me, and something either already exists or is
so trivial as to have escaped my notice.

I almost laughed when I saw a ChangeLog exists for the latest org release,
but then thought that ChangeLog is so perfect and ubiquitous as it should
not be replaced.

However, for my  plethora of little projects, scattered all over my home
directory tree, it would be excellent to have a capture template to do this
sort of thing, and store to any existing such file in the current
directory, and be picked up readily by some simple keystroke.   As an
example, I might be working on a graph of today's tides, in a new folder,
and work away, and when all is said and done, make a note and add it to the
00_README.org file.  These would be convenient to find without digging
through a lot of cruft  (and I have a lot of cruft).

It seems ChangeLog may sometimes save to a directory a the head of a tree
of directories, though I'm not sure.  Perhaps an option would enable this
to be done for a limited number of levels.

Certainly  something like this must have been implemented.  I think the
main trick might be to use the current directory, and use many files with
the same filename scattered around all over the place.

I turn to the list out of a sense that I have already wasted enough time on
trying to search for something of this nature.

Thank you,

Alan Davis
--
[Fill in the blanks]

The use of corrupt manipulations and blatant rhetorical ploys ...---
outright lying, flagwaving, personal attacks, setting up phony
alternatives, misdirection, jargon-mongering, evading key issues, feigning
disinterested objectivity, willful misunderstanding of other points of
view---suggests that ... lacks both credibility and evidence.

             ---- Edward Tufte (in context of making presentations)

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* Re: Is there any orgmode ChangeLog workalike (with enhancements)?
  2019-09-24 18:06 Is there any orgmode ChangeLog workalike (with enhancements)? Alan E. Davis
@ 2019-09-24 20:06 ` Alan E. Davis
  2019-09-25  7:05   ` Colin Baxter
  2019-09-25 13:39   ` Uwe Brauer
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2019-09-24 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode

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I have come up with something simple that works:

    ("X" "ChangeLog README" entry (file+datetree "./00_README.org") "* %?
\n   %U \n %f" :prepend t)

It looks like it will grow quickly into a long file, with four lines for
each entry.  For now, it's exactly what I needed.  Proof of my instinct
that 95% of the time, when I reach out for help, I almost immediately find
a solution on my own.

I apology for wasted space and time.

Alan Davis

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:06 AM Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:

> [I posted almost this exact message to emacs-help by mistake.]
>
> Many times I have envisioned having an org-mode function that works
> similarly to ChangeLog, to save notes as something like a 00_README.org
> file in-place, in any directory in which I am working.   Maybe my
> imagination has just escaped me, and something either already exists or is
> so trivial as to have escaped my notice.
>
> I almost laughed when I saw a ChangeLog exists for the latest org release,
> but then thought that ChangeLog is so perfect and ubiquitous as it should
> not be replaced.
>
> However, for my  plethora of little projects, scattered all over my home
> directory tree, it would be excellent to have a capture template to do this
> sort of thing, and store to any existing such file in the current
> directory, and be picked up readily by some simple keystroke.   As an
> example, I might be working on a graph of today's tides, in a new folder,
> and work away, and when all is said and done, make a note and add it to the
> 00_README.org file.  These would be convenient to find without digging
> through a lot of cruft  (and I have a lot of cruft).
>
> It seems ChangeLog may sometimes save to a directory a the head of a tree
> of directories, though I'm not sure.  Perhaps an option would enable this
> to be done for a limited number of levels.
>
> Certainly  something like this must have been implemented.  I think the
> main trick might be to use the current directory, and use many files with
> the same filename scattered around all over the place.
>
> I turn to the list out of a sense that I have already wasted enough time
> on trying to search for something of this nature.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alan Davis
> --
> [Fill in the blanks]
>
> The use of corrupt manipulations and blatant rhetorical ploys ...---
> outright lying, flagwaving, personal attacks, setting up phony
> alternatives, misdirection, jargon-mongering, evading key issues, feigning
> disinterested objectivity, willful misunderstanding of other points of
> view---suggests that ... lacks both credibility and evidence.
>
>              ---- Edward Tufte (in context of making presentations)
>
>
>


-- 
[Fill in the blanks]

The use of corrupt manipulations and blatant rhetorical ploys ...---
outright lying, flagwaving, personal attacks, setting up phony
alternatives, misdirection, jargon-mongering, evading key issues, feigning
disinterested objectivity, willful misunderstanding of other points of
view---suggests that ... lacks both credibility and evidence.

             ---- Edward Tufte (in context of making presentations)

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* Re: Is there any orgmode ChangeLog workalike (with enhancements)?
  2019-09-24 20:06 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2019-09-25  7:05   ` Colin Baxter
  2019-09-25 13:39   ` Uwe Brauer
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2019-09-25  7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan E. Davis; +Cc: org-mode

>>>>> Alan E Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> writes:

    > I have come up with something simple that works: ("X" "ChangeLog
    > README" entry (file+datetree "./00_README.org") "* %?  \n %U \n
    > %f" :prepend t)

This is a nice solution. Depending on the your version of org-mode, you
may get a depreciation warning on file+datetree. If you do then change
it to file+olp+datetree.

Best wishes,

-- 
Colin Baxter
www.Colin-Baxter.com
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* Re: Is there any orgmode ChangeLog workalike (with enhancements)?
  2019-09-24 20:06 ` Alan E. Davis
  2019-09-25  7:05   ` Colin Baxter
@ 2019-09-25 13:39   ` Uwe Brauer
  2019-09-25 16:16     ` Alan E. Davis
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2019-09-25 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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>>> "AED" == Alan E Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> writes:

   > I have come up with something simple that works:
   >     ("X" "ChangeLog README" entry (file+datetree "./00_README.org") "* %?
   > \n   %U \n %f" :prepend t)

Thanks I tried this and I obtain 

Deprecated date/weektree capture templates changed to ‘file+olp+datetree’.
org-datetree--find-create: Buffer is read-only: #<buffer README.org<org>>



That is why I have only absolute paths in my capture templates, but I
find them no appropriate in certain circumstances.

Any idea what is wrong here?

Uwe Brauer 

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* Re: Is there any orgmode ChangeLog workalike (with enhancements)?
  2019-09-25 13:39   ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2019-09-25 16:16     ` Alan E. Davis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2019-09-25 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode

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I am using org-mode installed by the emacs package system:
org-plus-contrib.  I just updated it this morning:

Org mode version 9.2.6 (9.2.6-elpaplus @ /usr/share/emacs/27.0.50/lisp/org/)

I have no trouble, so far, running this template.  If it is of interest, I
am using this also in directories in my Dropbox folder, from my laptop and
a desktop machine.  I will investigate changes in the template parameters.

I am already thinking of another one,  to capture a file listing and
perhaps enable commenting.  That last bit will stymy me.  In fact it's all
pretty much beyond me, for the moment.   I saw a contributed org function
to do something similar.

Anyway, for now, this template shows promise.  It's already easier to save
quick notes about an ongoing project.  Before org-mode, I used steno.el, to
good effect; org-mode, however, is lightyears beyond steno.

Thank you for the comments.

Alan Davis

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:51 AM Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> wrote:

> >>> "AED" == Alan E Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> writes:
>
>    > I have come up with something simple that works:
>    >     ("X" "ChangeLog README" entry (file+datetree "./00_README.org")
> "* %?
>    > \n   %U \n %f" :prepend t)
>
> Thanks I tried this and I obtain
>
> Deprecated date/weektree capture templates changed to ‘file+olp+datetree’.
> org-datetree--find-create: Buffer is read-only: #<buffer README.org<org>>
>
>
>
> That is why I have only absolute paths in my capture templates, but I
> find them no appropriate in certain circumstances.
>
> Any idea what is wrong here?
>
> Uwe Brauer
>


-- 
[Fill in the blanks]

The use of corrupt manipulations and blatant rhetorical ploys ...---
outright lying, flagwaving, personal attacks, setting up phony
alternatives, misdirection, jargon-mongering, evading key issues, feigning
disinterested objectivity, willful misunderstanding of other points of
view---suggests that ... lacks both credibility and evidence.

             ---- Edward Tufte (in context of making presentations)

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