Re: Export Org with Org concept -- Re: Problems with C-c C-e file.org,

[Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 18:13, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>
> * Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> [2022-12-18 17:57]:
> > andre duarte bueno <bueno@lenep.uenf.br> writes:
> >
> > > When I try to export file.org  using C-c C-e the window with the list of
> > > possibilities appears. But it appears incomplete(visualization), so I try
> > > to use the mouse to view the other export options and the system is
> > > completely blocked. Every mouse click is captured and displayed in the
> > > command window. And it doesn't allow you to do anything else. I am forced
> > > to cancel the command without completing it.
> > > Apparently C-c C-e is capturing all events and not just keyboard
> > > events!
>
> That is not first complaint, right? I would say it is obvious that
> such interface is not user friendly.
>
> > This is because we use `read-char-exclusive'.
>
> Don't use what is blocking Emacs. Apart from Org mode I have never
> seen a package that blocks Emacs that I cannot even inspect keys.

Hi Jean Louis,

did you solve your problem? Did you find a way to replace the blocking
code by something else?

I stumbled on exactly the same problem some months ago, and it drove
me nuts:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-12/msg00674.html Edrx 1
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2022-02/msg00098.html Ihor 2
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2022-02/msg00106.html Edrx 3
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2022-02/msg00111.html Ihor 4
http://angg.twu.net/e/org.e.html#org-export-dispatch

My conclusion was that Org is much harder to learn than I thought.
It's easy to learn if:

  1) you're a "user", or
  2) you know a lot about debugging Emacs, or
  3) the developers like your questions.

My holidays have just started, and I'm planning to work on (2).

Btw, at some point I gave up trying to find the functions that the
dispatcher calls, and I just defined this "function with a very short
name" that [c]ompiles the current .org file to HTML:

  (defun c () (interactive) (eek "C-c C-e h h"))

Refs:

  (find-eev-quick-intro "3. Elisp hyperlinks" "eek")
  (find-eev-quick-intro "7.4. Commands with very short names")
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#3
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#7.4

Cheers,
  Eduardo Ochs
  http://angg.twu.net/eepitch.html
  http://angg.twu.net/2021-org-for-non-users.html