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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655744392; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=OVEtQgCiUH8jesq/8J+FmrlytDddujW1kGVi1BZKq3g=; b=ATUGlZ3LX6onNaA+MI0R7THHbwqs40kXujciSgA9EBrY7WFAYs7eEP42HygRMF92vADBcJ tZ3JKdd2X+pq3aBHuhYj6rQX7Tk0K6VCqv4IDfyHewMD50/pKSPgaJizIabqE06AWAfYqt hkv0MhKj2+BBc1f6+31ouzk8ZvgoOWiOxth3piOi5KCR34P/HaK1Scs89n0em6j1j2Bqg4 1E+eefBnlwrn8sh+QuU+Kh1v1TtEyItf0VkrUa/hpRxPHaMn3Y6z2gSn9SaXCFnypqYR3n vX/+8jZesx5MJAzws12jba2yx5NxiBbMVNySb/at+dkZgS/rzLUX5t5LHpG3Wg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655744392; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VtRVmE8BYV7/wQqETAHKk3dj9eLXD+6SJCwM6LVsl6reOS/TCucuBB7klHDHePefnbzHRP FFfLvirwiDSkvUbB3x/sRUA16xbgb6Aojg0wSNaezNbqBu09+uAfsHwjQslb/RZPrt0wD9 YhykEJUCatdm2xcpnkS0umYhhicj/ugnhOSWOQRzFjC1/2CuwxW1whMQsvGVsyKkliaSj/ 4EADk3kByQfSmDyEEn5Ufy40MtwjlcSmuiFzUjYXjATrgoWC9KNoUh9dU2JStun4jdE3Pq qVE+ycdIUGej3bouVjKNBqUpl07ah42Z8A6LklplVb1/aSi/k9U5q7gvJefcMQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ATPIGHLW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.47 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ATPIGHLW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 868F328B8B X-Spam-Score: -2.47 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: h/OvL+Zq3WOF On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 12:28, Russell Adams wrote: > Juan, > > I've often wondered the same thing. I've looked at Hyperbole several > times. They have been great at advertising when a new release > occurs. Yet I find that I can't really find a useful feature in it > that I don't get from Org-mode. > > Is there some keen feature I'm missing? What's the use case for > Hyperbole if you're already an Org-mode user? Hi Russell, Some years ago I tried to integrate Hyperbole and eev and 1) I failed miserably, and 2) I ended up with the impression that Hyperbole is meant to be "used", not to be "hacked"... for example, in Hyperbole the action of a button like this, {C-h h d a} is to emulate what happens when the user types `C-h h d a'. This button works exactly as expected; eev implements something similar, but in a very simplistic, and slightly buggy, way: when we run this in eev (eek "C-h h d a") it simply runs this, (execute-kbd-macro (read-kbd-macro "C-h h d a")) that just inserts an "a". The details are here, in the second part, after the blank lines: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/hyperbole-users/2020-09/msg00013.html Hyperbole has some amazing features, but its code needs to be refactored to make more parts of it easier to use from Lisp... someone needs to do that, and this someone won't be me, as I'm burnt out. =( My links about my attempts to learn Hyperbole are here: http://angg.twu.net/hyperbole.html [[]], Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/2021-org-for-non-users.html