From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset Subject: Re: newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 14:28:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1535796759.17442.18.camel@orcon.net.nz> <871saccj0z.fsf@gmail.com> <1535923934.31400.20.camel@orcon.net.nz> <20180903074802.45f25fc3@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000028b020574f6ae17" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33669) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fwny9-00083S-En for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 08:28:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fwny7-0001t8-U8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 08:28:37 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::229]:36400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fwny7-0001sP-Dc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 08:28:35 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-x229.google.com with SMTP id v26-v6so346001ljj.3 for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180903074802.45f25fc3@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: ahcnz@orcon.net.nz Cc: Eric S Fraga , "Liste-emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , roklein@roklein.de --000000000000028b020574f6ae17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Adam, As Ubuntu and Debian user, I agree with Robert: the install of texlive via texlive-full is the best solution. Other packages can after be installed in ~/texmf/tex/latex/local/ (idem for ~/texmf/bibtex/ ) and everything should run smoothly. Best wishes, Jo. Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 =C3=A0 07:49, Robert Klein a =C3= =A9crit : > Hi Adam, > > On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:32:14 +1200 > adam wrote: > > > On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 11:04 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > > On Saturday, 1 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote: > > > > > > > > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > > > > > > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > > > > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > > > > > > > > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex > > > But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX. I.e. it exports to TeX with the > > > assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available. > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > > > What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve > > > using org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? > > > > > > > I require management of TeX (TeX Live) for export to PDF (LaTeX). > > > > The Tex Live manager (tlmgr) displays available fonts, loads and > > removes fonts and other packages. > > https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/tlmgr.html > > > > > > Sure, pdftex (from texlive-latex-extra) enables org-mode export to > > PDF, however the fonts available are opaque within the TexLive > > environment without tlmgr. Navigation of TexLive customizations, set > > with install-tl are opaque without tlmgr. > > > > > > packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS can be seen here, > > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=3Dtexlive > > > > using the TexLive installer install-tl can be seen here, > > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texli= ve-on-debian-or-u > > buntu > > > > > > In other words, org-mode export to PDF assumes a pdftex, and the > > tex/texlive/LaTex environment is up to the user to simply provide a > > pdftex. > > > > I don't get the =E2=80=9Crequire management=E2=80=9D part of this. Ubunt= u has about > 100 texlive packages, the texlive distribution offers about 47. The > SUSE guys went overboard and had (still have?) about 3500 packages --- > a former 2-hour installation with about 3-5 =E2=80=9Ctexlive=E2=80=9D pac= kages (fully > automated) took 4.5 plus then... > > Why don't you just install Ubuntu's texlive-full and be done with it? > > Best regards > Robert > > > > --000000000000028b020574f6ae17 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Adam,

As Ubuntu and Debian user, I agree with Robert: the instal= l of texlive via texlive-full is the best solution. Other packages can afte= r be installed in ~/texmf/tex/latex/local/=C2=A0 (idem for ~/texmf/bibtex/ = )=C2=A0 and everything should run smoothly.

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Best wishes,

Jo.

Le=C2=A0lun. 3 sept. 2018 =C3=A0=C2=A007:49, Robert Klein <roklein@roklein.de> a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:
Hi Adam,

On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:32:14 +1200
adam <ahcnz@orco= n.net.nz> wrote:

> On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 11:04 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> > On Saturday,=C2=A0=C2=A01 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote:=C2=A0 > > >
> > > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10=C2=A0
> > >
> > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o =C2=A0is working.=C2=A0
> > > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control.=C2=A0
> > >
> > >
> > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed =C2=A0pdftex =C2=A0=C2= =A0
> > But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX.=C2=A0=C2=A0I.e. it exports to = TeX with the
> > assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve > > using org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0
>
> I require management of TeX (TeX Live) for export to PDF (LaTeX).=C2= =A0
>
> The Tex Live manager (tlmgr) displays available fonts, loads and
> removes fonts and other packages.=C2=A0
> https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/tlmgr.html=C2=A0<= br> >
>
> Sure, pdftex (from texlive-latex-extra) enables org-mode export to
> PDF, however the fonts available are opaque within the TexLive
> environment without tlmgr. Navigation of TexLive customizations, set > with install-tl are opaque without tlmgr. =C2=A0
>
>
> packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS can be seen here,=C2=A0
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywor= ds=3Dtexlive=C2=A0
>
> using the TexLive installer =C2=A0install-tl =C2=A0can be seen here,= =C2=A0
> https= ://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texlive-on-d= ebian-or-u
> buntu=C2=A0
>
>
> In other words, org-mode export to PDF assumes a pdftex, and the
> tex/texlive/LaTex environment is up to the user to simply provide a > pdftex.=C2=A0
>

I don't get the =E2=80=9Crequire management=E2=80=9D part of this.=C2= =A0 Ubuntu has about
100 texlive packages, the texlive distribution offers about 47.=C2=A0 The SUSE guys went overboard and had (still have?) about 3500 packages ---
a former 2-hour installation with about 3-5 =E2=80=9Ctexlive=E2=80=9D packa= ges (fully
automated) took 4.5 plus then...

Why don't you just install Ubuntu's texlive-full and be done with i= t?

Best regards
Robert



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