From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Martin Alsinet Subject: Re: *Good* client for Android? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 23:01:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4916869e-5f2d-479c-b4a6-864d771be3c9@complete.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114b8b52e71a21055b6184d7" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2mTp-0004YF-CS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:01:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2mTm-0007jf-7q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:01:29 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]:45855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2mTl-0007ix-Uc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:01:26 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f48.google.com with SMTP id q124so16964560wmb.0 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 16:01:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4916869e-5f2d-479c-b4a6-864d771be3c9@complete.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: John Goerzen , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --001a114b8b52e71a21055b6184d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello John: If your phone screen is big enough, you could use termux + emacs + git & git-remote-gcrypt. With that you could use the same stack on Android as on your laptop. Termux is a linux console for Android that lets you install packages with something similar to apt-get in debian/ubuntu. I am thinking about getting a cheap Android tablet myself in order to have a ultra light mobile workstation with termux. On the other hand, a terminal console on a 5 inch phone screen doesn't seem to be very practical for prolonged work. Martin On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM John Goerzen wrote: > Hi folks, > > All along, I anticipated using this with Android (and, ideally, also > iOS). The MobileOrg feature set looked great, and the syncing mechanism > looked a lot better than sharing Dropbox. > > I use git to share my ~/org between two computers (laptop and desktop), > using git-remote-gcrypt to store on a server. This makes syncing and > resolving conflicts easy (I move between the two throughout the day, so > Dropbox is really not a great option here.) Sync integrity -- or at > least robust detection of conflicts -- is a must. Encryption is a "very > nice to have." > > Suggestions? > > Here's what I've found so far: > > MobileOrg - supports WebDAV storage. Has a robust sync system, > integrated with org-mode, in which it seems to be able to write out its > changes to a separate file that the computer can integrate. Sounds > smart, though I suspect it will require additional hacking to support > multiple Android devices. org-mode docs mention encryption for this, > but the encryption is not supported by MobileOrg. Also, MobileOrg was > last updated 4 years ago and seems to have bitrotted. > > Orgzly - Supports only Dropbox or local-on-Android storage. The latter > is insecure, as it permits any app on the system to read the files. I > am really not sure how to integrate this with my workflow. It seems > like potentials for conflicts are extremely high. > > SyncOrg - Shows some promise, but couldn't even test locally due to the > folder selection screen not working for the "External/Local Only." > Suspect it's trying to do something insecure as well, or doesn't work on > Oreo? ssh support seems to actually be ssh+git, which is nice - except > that it's unencrypted. doh. The documentation made no mention of > resolving conflicts. https://github.com/wizmer/syncorg/wiki/FAQ seems > to suggest it uses the old MobileOrg push/pull in org-mode, but I can't > see how that possibly works well with Git. I suspect that FAQ to be > totally obsolete, because it also talks about a Dropbox synchronizer > that SyncOrg doesn't even have. I could use this if I drop > git-remote-gcrypt, I hope. > > MobileOrg-NG - Last updated in 2012. Didn't really look past that. > > > > --001a114b8b52e71a21055b6184d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello John:

If your phone screen is big= enough, you could use termux=C2=A0+ emacs=C2=A0+ git & git= -remote-gcrypt.
With that you could use the same stack on Android= as on your laptop.

Termux is a linux console for = Android that lets you install packages with something similar to apt-get in= debian/ubuntu.
I am thinking about getting a cheap Android table= t myself in order to have a ultra light mobile workstation with termux.
On the other hand, a terminal console on a 5 inch phone screen doesn= 't seem to be very practical for prolonged work.


Martin

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
Hi folks,

All along, I anticipated using this with Android (and, ideally, also
iOS).=C2=A0 The MobileOrg feature set looked great, and the syncing mechani= sm
looked a lot better than sharing Dropbox.

I use git to share my ~/org between two computers (laptop and desktop),
using git-remote-gcrypt to store on a server.=C2=A0 This makes syncing and<= br> resolving conflicts easy (I move between the two throughout the day, so
Dropbox is really not a great option here.)=C2=A0 Sync integrity -- or at least robust detection of conflicts -- is a must.=C2=A0 Encryption is a &qu= ot;very
nice to have."

Suggestions?

Here's what I've found so far:

MobileOrg - supports WebDAV storage.=C2=A0 Has a robust sync system,
integrated with org-mode, in which it seems to be able to write out its
changes to a separate file that the computer can integrate.=C2=A0 Sounds smart, though I suspect it will require additional hacking to support
multiple Android devices.=C2=A0 org-mode docs mention encryption for this,<= br> but the encryption is not supported by MobileOrg.=C2=A0 Also, MobileOrg was=
last updated 4 years ago and seems to have bitrotted.

Orgzly - Supports only Dropbox or local-on-Android storage. The latter
is insecure, as it permits any app on the system to read the files.=C2=A0 I=
am really not sure how to integrate this with my workflow.=C2=A0 It seems like potentials for conflicts are extremely high.

SyncOrg - Shows some promise, but couldn't even test locally due to the=
folder selection screen not working for the "External/Local Only."= ;
Suspect it's trying to do something insecure as well, or doesn't wo= rk on
Oreo?=C2=A0 ssh support seems to actually be ssh+git, which is nice - excep= t
that it's unencrypted.=C2=A0 doh.=C2=A0 The documentation made no menti= on of
resolving conflicts.=C2=A0 https://github.com/wizmer/synco= rg/wiki/FAQ seems
to suggest it uses the old MobileOrg push/pull in org-mode, but I can't=
see how that possibly works well with Git.=C2=A0 I suspect that FAQ to be totally obsolete, because it also talks about a Dropbox synchronizer
that SyncOrg doesn't even have.=C2=A0 I could use this if I drop
git-remote-gcrypt, I hope.

MobileOrg-NG - Last updated in 2012.=C2=A0 Didn't really look past that= .



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