From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ista Zahn <istazahn@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RFC] BibELTeX: native bibtex support in org-mode Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:31:40 -0400 Message-ID: <CA+vqiLFEAa4uUtcEea4oQQw1xbmc9tcn8vPeYSTTpGWM3BtycA@mail.gmail.com> References: <1555388.1TMybExkxU@descartes> <87y5agcjbm.fsf@pank.home> <loom.20130612T124707-331@post.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: <emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41441) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <istazahn@gmail.com>) id 1Uml9f-0002fg-DY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:32:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <istazahn@gmail.com>) id 1Uml9d-00077O-TE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:32:03 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com ([209.85.192.181]:63959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <istazahn@gmail.com>) id 1Uml9d-00074w-Na for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:32:01 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 14so7201114pdj.40 for <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 06:32:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <loom.20130612T124707-331@post.gmane.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=BCdiger_Sonderfeld?= <ruediger@c-plusplus.de> Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:48 AM, R=C3=BCdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de> wrote: > Rasmus <rasmus <at> gmx.us> writes: > >> >> R=C3=BCdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger <at> c-plusplus.de> writes: >> >> > I've started writing BibELTeX as an alternative to =3Dox-bibtex.el=3D. >> > >> > https://github.com/ruediger/bibeltex >> >> Would you consider providing a test file showing off its features? > > I added a file test/example.org. Put bibeltex.el somewhere in your load-= path > and require it. This should be enough to make it work (use unload-featur= e to > remove it again). > > You can then export the document to any format you like. Good test case = is > using org-mode export (ox-org.el). Thank you for this, I've been waiting for this capability a long time. I look forward to giving it a more through test! Best, Ista > >> I'm skeptical but probably it is 'cause I've misunderstood something! >> Someone put a lot of thought into writing e.g. biblatex or >> odt-bibliographies. Surely(?) we would want to leverage upon those >> and only have org-support insofar as serving some backend-specific >> parser enough information to do its work? > > Certainly. BibELTeX is designed to do this. For LaTeX export it just > generates the corresponding LaTeX instructions (can be adopted even for > biblatex). > > But except for LaTeX there doesn't seem to be a real support for bibliogr= aphy. > It can be simulated for html using bibtex2html (ox-bibtex.el). But even = that > is not compatible with biber/biblatex. That's the reason behind BibELTeX= . > > Regards > >