Re: Disable agenda file autoload?

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

On May 28, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Russell Adams wrote:

> To all,
>
> Turns out this was a local configuration problem. My ~/.emacs has the
> agenda to appt integration with kdialog/zenity code in it, and each
> time org loaded this code would call the agenda to create the list of
> appointments.
>
> I commented out one line in my config file which would call that, but
> left the agenda hook in place (comment out the call to function
> my-org-agenda-to-appt immediately following the definition). That way
> the list will be populated the first time the agenda is called, but
> otherwise it is well behaved.
>
> Carsten, as always, thanks for your insight!

You are most welcome.

- Carsten

>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:31:33AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> You can try this:
>>
>> Find the org.el file, and in it the definition of the function
>>
>> (defun org-get-agenda-file-buffer
>>
>> As the first ting after the documentation string, enter (debug), like
>> this:
>>
>> (defun org-get-agenda-file-buffer (file)
>>  "Get a buffer visiting FILE.  If the buffer needs to be created, add
>> it to the list of buffers which might be released later."
>>  (debug)
>>  (let ((buf (org-find-base-buffer-visiting file)))
>>    (if buf
>> 	buf ; just return it
>>      ;; Make a new buffer and remember it
>>      (setq buf (find-file-noselect file))
>>      (if buf (push buf org-agenda-new-buffers))
>>      buf)))
>>
>> Make sure there is no compiled version of org.el on the path.
>>
>> Then run your first instance of Emacs.  During startup, I would  
>> expect
>> that Org Emacs will stop with a backtrace buffer.  Show me that  
>> buffer,
>> it will tell us which command loads agenda files....
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On May 28, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Russell Adams wrote:
>>
>>> I just tried an example, here's what happens.
>>>
>>> - Start first emacs session for Org, call agenda to build my agenda
>>> - Change anything in any buffer that is in the agenda list
>>> - Open another emacs
>>>  - Because I don't have org set to require, it only loads on demand,
>>>    no issues yet
>>> - Open another .org file that is not on the agenda list, which
>>>  triggers the load of org-mode
>>> - I get a popup warning me that another emacs session has the agenda
>>>  file locked
>>>
>>> Notice I wasn't trying to build the agenda on opening the other  
>>> file.
>>>
>>> I'm inclined to believe that Org is autoloading all the agenda files
>>> during initialization. If it didn't load the agenda files until the
>>> agenda was called interactively, that'd fix the problem.
>>>
>>> I may cause this again with another issue, I have a timed job that
>>> rebuilds the agenda at midnight because I leave my sessions open for
>>> days at a time. If that calls at the midnight boundary, it should
>>> cause this problem. I may still have to use a separate config, or a
>>> hook for agenda that I set the load list just prior to invoking
>>> agenda.
>>>
>>> Carsten, if you'd like I can send you my .emacs file direct to  
>>> verify
>>> that isn't causing the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 07:43:32AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Russell Adams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I tend to run multiple emacs sessions and I've noticed that if I
>>>>> load
>>>>> Org (no I do not require it on each load), that I get lock
>>>>> contention
>>>>> on agenda files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only one of these emacs instances is used for Org, I keep an Org
>>>>> session up separate from my coding...
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way that I can configure Org to not load the agenda  
>>>>> files
>>>>> until the first time the agenda is called?
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps just by delaying setting the agenda file list until the
>>>>> agenda
>>>>> is called by hook?
>>>>>
>>>>> My only other option would be to use a separate config for the Org
>>>>> window vs the others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the agenda files are only loaded for agenda
>>>> and related commands, i.e. commands that also need to access
>>>> the agenda files.  It is definitely not so that loading the Org
>>>> package will load the agenda files.  Or am I wrong here???
>>>> Maybe you are running org-agenda-to-appt or something like this?
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>
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