From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87lj7kapzq.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> <4C801DFC.8030700@christianmoe.com> <3F21BB56-EF9C-4D66-87E3-B090C145A206@gaillourdet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43971 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P6K7z-0001Tk-Nr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:29:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P6K7y-0002xw-Ej for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:29:35 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:63040) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P6K7y-0002xi-7Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:29:34 -0400 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so361452bwz.0 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:29:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3F21BB56-EF9C-4D66-87E3-B090C145A206@gaillourdet.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jean-Marie Gaillourdet Cc: emacs-orgmode List Jean, Even though I knew about this development at Zotero, It didn't occur to me that it might help org-Zotero integration. This is (or will be) pretty cool, when it happens. And I see that they already have the beginnings of an alpha release: http://www.zotero.org/blog/zotero-everywhere-first-look/ Scot On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jean-Marie Gaillourdet wrote: > Hi, > > sorry to bring up this old thread, but there rather are rather new develo= pments at Zotero which might interesting to people here. See below. > > > On 03.09.2010, at 22:12, Scot Becker wrote: > >> Another Zotero + org user here. =A0Right now I do what Christian does: e= xport Zotero to slightly tweaked BibTeX, and insert with RefTeX's amazingly= cool reference-insertion interface (another genius piece of work by Carste= n). =A0I can think of two profitable ways to make inserting references from= one's Zotero database into org-mode notes better, and one further way that= org-mode could be more tightly linked with Zotero. >> >> 1) =A0A utility (presumably part firefox plugin) which keeps a BibTeX fi= le in sync with one of Zotero's collections. =A0That way you don't have to = do a full manual export of your Zotero collection every time you add or cha= nge something. =A0RefTeX provides the citation insertion interface. =A0Some= thing similar this to exists for LyX. =A0It doesn't sync a whole Z. collect= ion, but creates a .bib file with the items you actually cite in your docum= ent. =A0The author (an Emacs user) even considered generalizing it for use = without LyX runing, i.e. for Emacs, but didn't find enough steam (after all= , he uses LyX). =A0(I also know that Mendeley can be made to auto-import fr= om Zotero and to auto-export to BibTeX, but Mendeley's BibTeX export is not= flexible.) >> > Zotero.org announced a new desktop application which will use a public av= ailable read/write api to the Zotero service: > >> With full read/write access to bibliographic data, attached files like P= DFs, >> and the citation formatting engine, developers will be able to integrate= a full >> range of Zotero features into their own web, mobile, and desktop applica= tions, >> and users will be able to take advantage of this functionality at zotero= .org. > > See http://www.zotero.org/blog/zoteros-next-big-step/ for more details. > > This should make it possible to use an official api to implement the use = case described above. > >> 2) =A0a org-mode-specific plain-text citation mechanism, analogous to Bi= bTeX, but useful for both LaTeX and non-LaTeX exports. =A0It would presumab= ly have a CSL backend, and work the way that citeproc-hs works for pandoc. = =A0Presumably it could also use a RefTeX-like interface for citation insert= ion. >> >> 3) Easier ways to take reading notes (in org) on items in the Zotero dat= abase, with two way linking. =A0(Thanks already for the tips in this thread= .) > > Regards, > Jean > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >