Re: Re: Refile target caching

[Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>]

It tries to call looking-at-p.

Is that a 23ism?

I run Emacs 22.

If that isn't it, I will do a backtrace etc.

Thanks.

On 2010-08-16, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>
> On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-16, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>>> Yes, sorting is one of the issues that will loose markers.
>>
>> Do you think that a cautious move here would be to compare the
>> headline of the target to the headline you think matches the target?
>> Then the refile can be aborted if they do not match.
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> yes, this is in fact a good secure measure - sorry for making it you
> say it three times before getting the idea.
>
> This should be working now.
>
> Best wishes
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  The running clock also gets lost all the time.  Even when
>>>> point is in it!
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-08-16, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for thinking of our bugs.  This is superb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have used it for a while now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It speeds things up enormously, making the difference between
>>>>>> usability and not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I have definitely had headlines get refiled to the wrong
>>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ouch, this is bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do a lot of moving stuff around in the buffer, the markers
>>>>> pointing to refile locations will become wrong.  So you then need
>>>>> to clear the cache, to make sure you get fresh positions.
>>>>>
>>>>> A good example where it goes wrong would, of cause, be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not able to track it down now, but I do have a
>>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> Would it be possible to print the actual target that the
>>>>>> headline
>>>>>> got refiled to, instead of the name associated with the marker?
>>>>>> At
>>>>>> present, org says that it successfully refiled to the target
>>>>>> headline
>>>>>> when it did not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> Alternatively, org could compare the actual headline it was
>>>>>> refiled to against the headline it was supposed to refile to.
>>>>>> Then
>>>>>> you'd get an error if they do not match.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the bugs, I cannot investigate further now.  Debugging is
>>>>>> difficult for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps more error checking as above will make the bug show up
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2010-05-17, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Sebastian, hi Samuel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember that both of you have in the past reported that
>>>>>>> refiling
>>>>>>> has a long startup time because of target collection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have now built a cache for refile targets and would like you to
>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>> it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (setq org-refile-use-cache t)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will speed up refile target collection for the second and
>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>> instance.
>>>>>>> If you are moving or adding entries that are targets themselves,
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> chace needs to be cleared with prefix arg 0 (zero), i.e. `C-0 C-c
>>>>>>> C-
>>>>>>> w'
>>>>>>> or, if you prefer, with a triple C-u prefix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samuel, note that this only speeds up target collection - it does
>>>>>>> nothing to the overhead added by ido - so we will have to see how
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> this helps for your use-case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Q: How many CDC "scientists" does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: "You only think it's dark." [CDC has denied a deadly disease for 25 years]
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