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My options: LaTeX, ODT, HTML. LaTeX: I can see some masters here that make professional books, and I have some friends that publish scientific papers using LaTeX. But, it looks like a like a rabbit hole to me, since even the masters seem to have to modify the tex file directly (is this correct?), not being sufficient orgmode to culminate the work by itself. And to learn LaTeX seems a lifelong activity (almost like "learning" orgmode). BTW, when I export to LaTeX although it gets the job done, it sends a lot of error messages. ODT: I take this one as a lower level solution than LaTeX, but it looks easier to tame, and it even allows to use templates,  for example to make reports in the workplace. Do you think it is worth focusing on ODT exporting? Could it be a definitive solution to publish papers and books directly from orgmode? ODT exporting sends some error message to me, but at least I understand it. HTML: I have seen some themes designed to export in LaTeX format using HTML. Here we would have the "definitive tool": The power of LaTeX in the versatility that could give the use of different themes for different purposes. But, do you think it could get, some day, the quality of a direct LaTeX export? No errors by my side when exporting to HTML. How do you think I should spend some hundreds (or thousands) of hours to achieve maestry exporting my documents? Best regards. --------------71C973E1D96E65A7A4DC74F3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi

After some years of using orgmode, and exporting using its defaults, I would like to take a quality leap and find a way of exporting for life. My options: LaTeX, ODT, HTML.

LaTeX: I can see some masters here that make professional books, and I have some friends that publish scientific papers using LaTeX. But, it looks like a like a rabbit hole to me, since even the masters seem to have to modify the tex file directly (is this correct?), not being sufficient orgmode to culminate the work by itself. And to learn LaTeX seems a lifelong activity (almost like "learning" orgmode). BTW, when I export to LaTeX although it gets the job done, it sends a lot of error messages.

ODT: I take this one as a lower level solution than LaTeX, but it looks easier to tame, and it even allows to use templates,  for example to make reports in the workplace. Do you think it is worth focusing on ODT exporting? Could it be a definitive solution to publish papers and books directly from orgmode? ODT exporting sends some error message to me, but at least I understand it.

HTML: I have seen some themes designed to export in LaTeX format using HTML. Here we would have the "definitive tool": The power of LaTeX in the versatility that could give the use of different themes for different purposes. But, do you think it could get, some day, the quality of a direct LaTeX export? No errors by my side when exporting to HTML.

How do you think I should spend some hundreds (or thousands) of hours to achieve maestry exporting my documents?

Best regards.

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