* Org menu change
@ 2013-11-24 4:15 Alan L Tyree
2013-11-24 4:40 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Alan L Tyree @ 2013-11-24 4:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org-mode
In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a
complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an
amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the
user to the usual Emacs customisation system.
Is this intentional or a bug?
Org-mode version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-288-g8c9887 @
/home/alant/.emacs.d/org-mode/lisp/)
GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-07-14 on breezy
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* Re: Org menu change
2013-11-24 4:15 Org menu change Alan L Tyree
@ 2013-11-24 4:40 ` Nick Dokos
2013-11-24 5:42 ` Alan L Tyree
2013-11-25 5:48 ` Alan L Tyree
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2013-11-24 4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes:
> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a
> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an
> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the
> user to the usual Emacs customisation system.
>
> Is this intentional or a bug?
>
Not sure how it worked before, but when I click on Expand, I get a short
submenu that includes a "Customize" sub-submenu that when clicked opens
up a whole list (about 40 items) of customizations and customization
groups (with corresponding submenus). Is that not what you get?
> Org-mode version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-288-g8c9887 @
> /home/alant/.emacs.d/org-mode/lisp/)
>
> GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-07-14 on breezy
Just upgraded, so I'm using this version of org too.
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Nick
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* Re: Org menu change
2013-11-24 4:40 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2013-11-24 5:42 ` Alan L Tyree
2013-11-25 5:48 ` Alan L Tyree
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From: Alan L Tyree @ 2013-11-24 5:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 24/11/13 15:40, Nick Dokos wrote:
> Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a
>> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an
>> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the
>> user to the usual Emacs customisation system.
>>
>> Is this intentional or a bug?
>>
> Not sure how it worked before, but when I click on Expand, I get a short
> submenu that includes a "Customize" sub-submenu that when clicked opens
> up a whole list (about 40 items) of customizations and customization
> groups (with corresponding submenus). Is that not what you get?
Hmmm. It is what I used to get. And what I still get on my desktop
machine. I must have messed up the laptop somehow.
Sorry for the noise.
Cheers,
Alan
>
>> Org-mode version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-288-g8c9887 @
>> /home/alant/.emacs.d/org-mode/lisp/)
>>
>> GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-07-14 on breezy
> Just upgraded, so I'm using this version of org too.
>
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* Re: Org menu change
2013-11-24 4:40 ` Nick Dokos
2013-11-24 5:42 ` Alan L Tyree
@ 2013-11-25 5:48 ` Alan L Tyree
2013-11-25 8:22 ` Christian Moe
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From: Alan L Tyree @ 2013-11-25 5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nick Dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Nick Dokos writes:
> Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a
>> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an
>> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the
>> user to the usual Emacs customisation system.
>>
<SNIP>
The error is being caused by my mu4e setup. It begins:
(require 'mu4e)
(require 'org-mu4e) ;; sets up links to email
(require 'org-contacts)
Eliminating the second two requires cures the problem and the 'Expand
this menu works as it should.
My mu4e and emacs 24 setup is a little unusual, so I don't know if this
is a general problem. I would like to hear from anyone using mu4e.
Thanks,
Alan
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* Re: Org menu change
2013-11-25 5:48 ` Alan L Tyree
@ 2013-11-25 8:22 ` Christian Moe
2013-11-25 20:09 ` Alan L Tyree
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From: Christian Moe @ 2013-11-25 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan L Tyree; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Alan L Tyree writes:
>>> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a
>>> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an
>>> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the
>>> user to the usual Emacs customisation system.
I haven't used this feature before, and get different behaviors on OSX
(where I have mu4e) and Linux (where I don't at the moment), so I'm not
sure what you expect to see.
On Mint 15, clicking "Expand this
menu" places a Customize item in the Customize sub-menu, and hovering
over this item opens a sub-sub-menu of Org customizations.
On Mac OSX, it also places a Customize item in the sub-menu; no
sub-sub-menu appears, however, but clicking the item takes me to a
*Customize Group: Org* buffer.
> The error is being caused by my mu4e setup. It begins:
>
> (require 'mu4e)
> (require 'org-mu4e) ;; sets up links to email
> (require 'org-contacts)
> Eliminating the second two requires cures the problem and the 'Expand
> this menu works as it should.
I don't require org-contacts.
Requiring or not requiring org-mu4e doesn't seem to make a difference on
my Mac setup, I get the above behavior regardless.
> My mu4e and emacs 24 setup is a little unusual, so I don't know if
> this
> is a general problem. I would like to hear from anyone using mu4e.
Sorry I couldn't be less ambiguous...
Yours,
Christian
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* Re: Org menu change
2013-11-25 8:22 ` Christian Moe
@ 2013-11-25 20:09 ` Alan L Tyree
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alan L Tyree @ 2013-11-25 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Moe; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Christian Moe writes:
> Alan L Tyree writes:
>
>>>> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a
>>>> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an
>>>> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the
>>>> user to the usual Emacs customisation system.
>
> I haven't used this feature before, and get different behaviors on OSX
> (where I have mu4e) and Linux (where I don't at the moment), so I'm not
> sure what you expect to see.
>
> On Mint 15, clicking "Expand this
> menu" places a Customize item in the Customize sub-menu, and hovering
> over this item opens a sub-sub-menu of Org customizations.
Yes, this is what I expect to see and what I think is the intended
operation of the menus.
>
> On Mac OSX, it also places a Customize item in the sub-menu; no
> sub-sub-menu appears, however, but clicking the item takes me to a
> *Customize Group: Org* buffer.
This is what I thought was the aberrant behaviour.
>
>> The error is being caused by my mu4e setup. It begins:
>>
>> (require 'mu4e)
>> (require 'org-mu4e) ;; sets up links to email
>> (require 'org-contacts)
>
>> Eliminating the second two requires cures the problem and the 'Expand
>> this menu works as it should.
>
> I don't require org-contacts.
>
> Requiring or not requiring org-mu4e doesn't seem to make a difference on
> my Mac setup, I get the above behavior regardless.
>
>> My mu4e and emacs 24 setup is a little unusual, so I don't know if
>> this
>> is a general problem. I would like to hear from anyone using mu4e.
>
> Sorry I couldn't be less ambiguous...
Ok - it's very interesting since it seems like it is some interaction
with mu4e that causes the different behaviour.
My emacs and mu4e are both self compiled and then installed (Debian
Wheezy) using Gnu Stow. If I use *either* of (require 'org-mu4e) or
(require 'org-contacts) then the sub-sub menu disappears.
I guess it's not really a major problem, but I do find that huge options
menu to be useful.
Cheers,
Alan
>
> Yours,
> Christian
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