From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id QKHADW3oIGF64gAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:50:05 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id CK6LCW3oIGFRYAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:50:05 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8089D1A71 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:50:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37290 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mHPVi-00058q-DI for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:50:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mHPVA-00058h-4I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:49:28 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-x102c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c]:38840) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mHPV8-0007aj-IH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:49:27 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-x102c.google.com with SMTP id om1-20020a17090b3a8100b0017941c44ce4so15585817pjb.3 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 04:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=UJiyAV/HgRA/uphoyVhcBshLyLw21WFezwiIZBTzSr4=; b=bYi1lmxFbVzNN9O9roa1maRLIqj+h+6cGQv5zbDksJrrHloGVcLkdFQ3RxJXmn3zGM CXKCqYLAVHlGDibAr4YAKl6xLrLMZHVP5tg3Iy1X8QnERb2LB0m+/Wq0KJ6KZ27qtIIz c70tSc4KfMFux+oSwghBvr/lCGeDem3wrcLyBGGhLP4JamDBo6bp2tDWKjr6l/XSVlNT sG8w8cxuwmB6sp2VjvF4F9JPY72XPKA/y1K8srF1oBU9Wd33LbibmTqfzGUNwn1inJ3q uNKQMW/ebm/AXbZ4HgcLNix3eXvwTcnTLNk6p1XptGh0dP2o9iFiS9q3gmrXbtyBN48F JY1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=UJiyAV/HgRA/uphoyVhcBshLyLw21WFezwiIZBTzSr4=; b=o5SezfNU1jQJE3tAZCLBg51WAzdXfYWIbg1bCWsHAfaBKdW772fbspKX9NB76/Wehl MGNL2SM6vpVOqO/qeMh4MBVNOEWQoAdLyvX9CBD9k6RathxN2lRiWnx18OpU5fRbRQK5 ierLMa5aqpEpZhSUb23h/R60dI9w4Jz28BiWAnN7DwRihg9a6JWrX8NZ+5TD7d0Unjwe nNJTt6yTlpbgmhsoP+INFYo7YBdJ/W26UGL6XOimyM9mxbguH1SyUFL1SpqYgfDxPy5i zXlYGqhFu1GpXim9wzn/UEvrcQzN392IZq/Kn/0fIa5VSDXMHSBv2h03Waem7mccNHo9 4n2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LvHPY7jwsEqVulTWIqeW/deCLUqBBbeEaGRaO5N4rjmzSzvmM SLQSxZi2QFAvh/7dQPn7R+F1H7rJ0rc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzZzyVd1uoB5NdlQOa5QXgySiCpJM0u9oDyGenEUgD3XcG0uEgYZJU1CT7OXjmbIos15vmL4w== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:3d0d:: with SMTP id h13mr9867355pjc.20.1629546564904; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 04:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim-desktop (106-69-122-228.dyn.iinet.net.au. [106.69.122.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q68sm11902392pgq.5.2021.08.21.04.49.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 21 Aug 2021 04:49:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <1015878.1629541579@apollo2.minshall.org> <87ilzzdqtm.fsf@localhost> User-agent: mu4e 1.6.3; emacs 27.2.50 From: Tim Cross To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: forms and org-mode Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 21:41:44 +1000 In-reply-to: <87ilzzdqtm.fsf@localhost> Message-ID: <87zgtbnhkv.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Greg Minshall , Jude DaShiell , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1629546604; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=UJiyAV/HgRA/uphoyVhcBshLyLw21WFezwiIZBTzSr4=; b=W60/3LVlfQ3CEJXd9I2JsLxxIpLmMk0siy9DGeGdIa6RD4EQqfcVemRcoeYse85wh9ca82 4ThI8ZozBEM2dE6jAI3KbGKElYqA4bwAVx4/RvpuDy9EyO6+ElyMWw+ufsMz21A8afV8ya rLYaBIr5HgGQJIacsWa5Izm3YDvH25TT34tjMHHA1nipaIU8jb6auZdIdHjSJYdZ9kMQln zszng+Fnma1UplklKjuRTjoRSTyscPG0NIw2epxJnDp+yPZTwo1OL7JawI2qrqdRanYu+2 Tk+vkBPDSAmzQjDDkVtJ7rH8Y0C0i8hKT2Uuugqdv42tv9hyPRj1uZfYhRdADA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1629546604; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=n6uYvwx9RX/NcNrCnPENixYIXHGu10vtgfGvv42nFpqO37/zv1lIU6uu1DXnaZCx3nHZS4 e8iD0QkqGREGc23/sVd9BYAoZI/vjbskFjh7Zk5JhnDveahHhs8l3s6TPvONkNDquUmmlp R/0fsxA3G4qY0/QnpGTFSrEMxgVU/1pQaisxuJBU1YZjdx5nvb0Mq3wDQGaOryIvFQP3jp 8nyOalynVzxXzkFO+fjVge1vXox2l2Dgy4Ym0ZPlYRB/rrAWVSYdiS4Dr0jqb6XzL9zieM POhClAs/wHx/jgebb55yHkILJGsbzdwGnz8iZRV1ucIzyzXjFeCwtadi4pL24w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=bYi1lmxF; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=bYi1lmxF; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8089D1A71 X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: bFFTxdwaYqKL Ihor Radchenko writes: > Greg Minshall writes: > >> wasn't there also some talk a while back about whatever form'ish >> technology "magit" uses? my sense was it provides something similar to >> Emacs forms. > > To clarify, I am not aware about Emacs forms (unless you refer to > widgets used in customize interface). Magit uses transient which is one > of the possible completion interfaces in Emacs. > Yes, Emacs Forms is part of Emacs and provides an interface for collecting data - either it is based on Emacs widgets or something very similar. Very much like old 'form' data entry interfaces we use to see on terminals in the 80s. A bit like ncurses with a little 'window' decoration. Transient on the other hand is a UI library for getting user input where the options are a little too complex/large for the more common input methods - for example, it could be a good candidate for the export 'menu'. which I find can be very frustrating on a smaller screen when you have lots of defined export back-ends.