Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?

[Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>]

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> regexp components docstring in bugfix still say reload or restart.
> biut mayube that is obsolete.

`org-emphasis-regexp-components'? It is no longer a defcustom - you are
not supposed to change it.

> i found possible examples in appt and ediff bot those are not org.  so
> perhaps this is a case where the problem no longer exists?  8if so,
> then never mind that comment about guideline for not requiring setting
> before org where possible.
>
> perhaps these are unavoidable.

> bugfix .el
> g set *.el|g before|g load
> org-fold-core.el:Important: This variable must be set before loading Org."

It is `org-fold-core-style' - must be set before opening file because it
switches between two implementations of folding.
You usually don't need to touch it.

> org-keys.el:Needs to be set before Org is loaded.

`org-mouse-1-follows-link' simply triggers adding/not adding one binding
to `org-mouse-map'. Actually, `org-tab-follows-link' is the same.

These variables are mostly used to avoid forcing users put

(org-defkey org-mouse-map [follow-link] 'mouse-face)
or (org-defkey org-mouse-map (kbd "TAB") #'org-open-at-point)
into their config.

We may alternatively use custom :set function for these variables. That
will not require a restart.

> org-list.el:This variable needs to be set before org.el is loaded.  If you
> org-list.el:This variable needs to be set before org.el is loaded.  If you

`org-plain-list-ordered-item-terminator' and `org-list-allow-alphabetical'
configure Org parser. We should probably remove these variables
eventually. To standardize Org syntax.

> org-persist.el:This variable must be set before loading org-persist library.")

`org-persist--disable-when-emacs-Q' is an internal variable used for debugging.

> org.el:This variable needs to be set before org.el is loaded.  If you

This is `org-export-backends' that literally controls Org loading.
Technically, you don't need to re-load Org here if you set it via
customize interface.

> org.el:This variable needs to be set before org.el is loaded, and you need to

`org-enforce-todo-checkbox-dependencies'. Again, no need to reload Org
if you use customize interface. In both this and previous cases,
docstring explains about customize.

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