From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jason Dunsmore Subject: Re: Re: Worg needs some reorganizing Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:47:45 -0600 Message-ID: <87y66ji1v2.fsf@riotblast.dunsmor.com> References: <4CAD81B0.6090807@manor-farm.org> <87pqveyct2.fsf@gmail.com> <87ocayl81d.fsf@manor-farm.org> <0E084C6C-6FD1-4C74-BD9F-34F2830B93C5@gmail.com> <87bp6ytacd.fsf_-_@stats.ox.ac.uk> <87fwsubckf.fsf@gnu.org> <87aaj2w5x4.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87d3nyuhkw.fsf@altern.org> <87aaj0kggo.fsf@gmail.com> <87zkr0load.fsf@riotblast.dunsmor.com> <87pqrwipjd.fsf@gmail.com> <87oc7glhef.fsf@riotblast.dunsmor.com> <87hbd8ins8.fsf@gmail.com> <87ipxolgji.fsf@riotblast.dunsmor.com> <87aaj0iiff.fsf@gmail.com> <87r5cbk28p.fsf@riotblast.dunsmor.com> <87fwsrtokh.fsf@gnu.org> <87fwsr9wrd.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8762tnjlrz.fsf@riotblast.dunsmor.com> <87bp3fuqfw.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60223 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PexrY-0000WI-FS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:47:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PexrW-0007g4-Vr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:47:48 -0500 Received: from deathroller.dunsmor.com ([98.129.169.48]:35886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PexrW-0007fz-RB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:47:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87bp3fuqfw.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:16:03 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Achim Gratz writes: > Jason Dunsmore writes: >> I made several unit changes from px to em, removed the line-height >> property, and removed Georgia as the default font: > > Well actually, relative font sizing works would be 'larger' and > 'smaller', which would take into account what fonts are actually > available. Specifying the fonts with percentages or em often ends up at > a font size that is not available and must be scaled, which can look > really bad. But before I make a mess by trying to explain it, search > for: > > css relative font sizes -w3schools > > I actually don't assign sizes in my own CSS and rely on the default > sizes the browser delivers. That may be too chancy for you since the > defaults are bad in several older browsers, but it works well enough > with all the modern ones. > >> In h2, h3, and h4, removing Arial as the font-family and letting the >> browser use the default sans font looked ugly. Is there a more >> general way to specify an Arial-like font? > > Sans-serif uses whatever the user has specified to be used for this > font. To me, Arial looks ugly and I'm using a different font there; > I've also replaced serif with the same font because I've yet to find a > website that actually reads better with a serif font. Finally, I've > also locked my fonts so I don't get overruled by some webdesigners idea > of "nice-looking" and "readable" (which may well be true on their > computer). :-) > > BTW, "sans" is not a generic font family and might actually return a > (pixel?) font installed on the system. Last but not least, font > families should be quoted and generic families not, e.g.: > > font: "Georgia", sans-serif; > font-size: medium; /* absolute specification decided by UA, user preference */ Hi Achim, I've taken all of your advice to heart and created this improved CSS file: http://orgmode.org/tmp/worg-improved.css :) Joking aside, please send me a patch or CSS file with your suggestions implemented. Regards, Jason