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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.11 X-Spam-Score: -9.11 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6D5CD3D39B X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-TUID: pwWW08++LMgO Max Nikulin writes: > On 08/07/2023 16:31, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >>>> - it is what we use ourselves in WORG sources. > >> Max Nikulin writes: >>> I have not found it in the worg repository. There are enough @@html:@@ >>> with a handful of @@latex:@@. >>=20 >> Yeah, not in WORG. >> https://orgmode.org/quickstart.html#text-comments > > It makes the FAQ entry having no value if your suggestions are taken=20 > into account. (I would add a link to annotating that is another sort of=20 > comments instead of dropping content further.) So I am giving up and=20 > leaving opportunity to propose changes to somebody else. https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg/commit/f598c7ef > Bing rates quickstart reasonably, but Google avoids it and I have no=20 > idea why. Some hypotheses: > - quickstart uses generic metadata for the whole site, not specific for=20 > this page > -

repeating has display:none property > - invalid markup in index.html (a pitfall with affiliated keywords=20 > breaking paragraphs) for the link to quickstart: > > <p> > <a href=3D"quickstart.html"> > </p> > > <figure id=3D"org490449d"> > <img src=3D"resources/img/quickstart.svg" alt=3D"Running stickfigure"=20 > class=3D"org-svg" title=3D"Start using Org. You'll never stop."> > > </figure> > > <p> > </a> > > I am unsure, but I would expect something like > > <a href=3D"quickstart.html" title=3D"Getting started with Org-mode" > ><img src=3D"resources/img/quickstart.svg" alt=3D"Quickstart" > class=3D"org-svg"></a> I have no idea here. I wish somebody more familiar with search engine optimization chimed in. >>> +#+begin_src org >>> +The following line may become a patagraph separator. >>> +@@comment: might give unexpected effect @@ >>> +Put some text before @@comment: a better variant >>> +@@ and after instread. >>> +#+end_src >>=20 >> May you please elaborate? >> If you see inline export block starting a paragraph, it is a bug. > > I failed to convince you that it is a general issue, not a LaTeX=20 > specific one. > > Ihor Radchenko to emacs-orgmode=E2=80=A6 Re: [BUG] No space after footnot= e with=20 > org-export-with-footnotes set to nil [9.6.1 ( @=20 > /Users/test/.emacs.d/elpa/28.0/develop/org-9.6.1/)] Tue, 14 Mar 2023=20 > 12:19:11 +0000. https://list.orgmode.org/87fsa7o79c.fsf@localhost > > try to export to MarkDown. Even for LaTeX the fix is in the development=20 > branch only. There are enough users of built-in Org that deserve to be=20 > warned. The linked message was talking about macros. I still think that for macros specifically it was not a bug - macros may be expanded into multiple paragraphs, which is perfectly fine. We should not force macro expansion to ensure a single paragraph. As for comments, I tend to agree that it is indeed a bug. --=20 Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>. Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>, or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>