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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:16:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wn8wysg0.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tio0th$vn8$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Wed, 19 Oct 2022 12:11:11 +0700")

Max Nikulin writes:

> Another recipe should be used:
>
> | / | < |                                 > |
> |   | a | b @@latex:\rule[-1em]{0pt}{1em}@@ |
> |   | c | d                                 |
>
> I believe that a more convenient way to override [0pt] to some other
> length for particular row should exist, but I have no idea which
> syntax should be used.

I think this new recipe you propose works fine, although I haven't
done a thorough test yet. In principle, it shouldn't be a problem.

By the way, now I remember that the package verse adds a series of extra
arguments to \\ (p. 6 in the documentation:
https://www.ctan.org/pkg/verse). As a user, the only way I can think of
to add arguments instead of [0pt] or \empty is by using a small export
filter to act on the final output. Perhaps putting something like
!!new-argument!! on the affected row/verse/line to guide the filter.

> As to tabulararray, I still consider it as an experimental package.
> Perhaps I will install a more modern container. I am curious what code
> handles \\[0pt]. Likely I should read docs to get impression related
> to design goals and approaches to implement them. The bug tracker of
> the project looks like an appropriate place to ask a question
> concerning \\ variant safe for dumb exporters.

Keep in mind that tabularray is a latex3 package and, in principle,
everything that is latex3 is here to stay. Certainly, it is a blessing
compared to the classic tabular environments, because it is tremendously
versatile. That is why it already has a significant number of users:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tabularray

And Org already provides what is necessary to use its syntax. I've had a
first look at tabularray.sty, but I'm not familiar enough with the new
LaTeX 3 syntax and, frankly, I'm lost...

I've tried all the packages involved in tables that I can think of
(longtable, siunitx, tabularx, booktabs, array, and I don't know if I
forgot any) and in all of them the \empty solution works fine. It seems
that tabularray is the black sheep here.

> For a while I have the following question. Is \\{} have the same
> effect on tabularray parser as \\\empty?

Throw an error before \hline.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-19 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-15 21:35 [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16  3:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-16 12:08   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 15:04 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-16 16:33   ` Verse block and separations (was: [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX) Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17  8:54     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18  9:39       ` Verse block and separations Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 14:48     ` Verse block and separations (was: [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX) Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 11:08     ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 11:24       ` Verse block and separations Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 17:14   ` Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export (was: [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX) Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17  9:04     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 11:30       ` Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 11:47         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 12:27           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 15:01         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 16:46           ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-17 18:04             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-18  4:41               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 14:23                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-19  3:57                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-19  5:11                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 11:16                       ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2022-10-19 12:30                         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-19 17:07                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-20 16:55                             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-21  3:34                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-21 16:38                                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-21 19:32                                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
     [not found]                         ` <ac290c60-3b54-5521-eb16-82e6611dc6e2@gmail.com>
2022-10-20 17:07                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-29  2:36                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-13 17:01                       ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-18  4:39             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-19 17:12               ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-20  5:07                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-20 17:15                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-21  3:41                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-21 16:32                       ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-22  5:15                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-22 12:26                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-22 15:55                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-01  1:51                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-01 16:07                               ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-02  6:44                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-02  6:46                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-02 15:27                                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-03  6:15                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-03 15:00                                         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-11-03 15:33                                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-03 15:48                                             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-11-04  4:23                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-04  5:40                                               ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-05  5:30                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-11-01 16:55 Juan Manuel Macías

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