Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

[Bastien]

Manuel Hermenegildo <herme@fi.upm.es> writes:

>  > Another possibility would be to more the org-agenda-later/earlier from  
>  > the cursor keys and put them onto some other keys.  I do sometimes  
>  > think myself that it was a mistake to use the Cursor keys for this  
>  > functionality......
>
> For what it's worth I personally remap "n" and "p" to move from one
> week (day/month/...)  to the other and use "C-n" and "C-p" to move
> within a week (day/month/...) as in a normal buffer because for me
> this merges better with the rest of the flow in emacs, i.e., I
> basically do not use the arrow keys for movement (too far from my
> fingers! ;-)).

I agree that n/p would be better that arrow keys here, I'm also often
misusing the arrow keys.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

[Manuel Hermenegildo]

 > Another possibility would be to more the org-agenda-later/earlier from  
 > the cursor keys and put them onto some other keys.  I do sometimes  
 > think myself that it was a mistake to use the Cursor keys for this  
 > functionality......

For what it's worth I personally remap "n" and "p" to move from one
week (day/month/...)  to the other and use "C-n" and "C-p" to move
within a week (day/month/...) as in a normal buffer because for me
this merges better with the rest of the flow in emacs, i.e., I
basically do not use the arrow keys for movement (too far from my
fingers! ;-)).  --Manuel

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Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

[Daniel Clemente]

El dg, ago 23 2009 a les 20:45, Richard Lewis va escriure:

> This is sort of a bug query. Occasionally, I accidentally hold down
> the LEFT cursor key in Agenda mode, hoping to move the cursor left,
> but forgetting that it actually moves to next week.
>

  I use org-agenda-clockreport-mode and then I see a table in the agenda. Sometimes I accidentally change day after pressing left/right because I wanted to move to the cell to the left/right. I should use Tab, but it doesn't work.

  I would say that it doesn't make sense to change day when the cursor is over a clock report table in the agenda. But each person may see this differently.


-- Daniel

Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Daniel Clemente wrote:

> El dg, ago 23 2009 a les 20:45, Richard Lewis va escriure:
>
>> This is sort of a bug query. Occasionally, I accidentally hold down
>> the LEFT cursor key in Agenda mode, hoping to move the cursor left,
>> but forgetting that it actually moves to next week.
>>
>
>  I use org-agenda-clockreport-mode and then I see a table in the  
> agenda. Sometimes I accidentally change day after pressing left/ 
> right because I wanted to move to the cell to the left/right. I  
> should use Tab, but it doesn't work.

This is not a editable table, which is why TAB does not work.

>
>  I would say that it doesn't make sense to change day when the  
> cursor is over a clock report table in the agenda. But each person  
> may see this differently.

Yes, you might want to do the same customization as Manuel
describes earlier in this thread.

HTH

- Carsten

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> -- Daniel
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Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jul 24, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Bastien wrote:

> Manuel Hermenegildo <herme@fi.upm.es> writes:
>
>>> Another possibility would be to more the org-agenda-later/earlier  
>>> from
>>> the cursor keys and put them onto some other keys.  I do sometimes
>>> think myself that it was a mistake to use the Cursor keys for this
>>> functionality......
>>
>> For what it's worth I personally remap "n" and "p" to move from one
>> week (day/month/...)  to the other and use "C-n" and "C-p" to move
>> within a week (day/month/...) as in a normal buffer because for me
>> this merges better with the rest of the flow in emacs, i.e., I
>> basically do not use the arrow keys for movement (too far from my
>> fingers! ;-)).
>
> I agree that n/p would be better that arrow keys here, I'm also often
> misusing the arrow keys.

This is a pretty important change in the UI.  I would like to
get a general vote to decide this.  See my separate message.

- Carsten

>
> -- 
> Bastien

Re: Accidentally holding down LEFT arrow in Agenda

[Torsten Wagner]

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>This is a pretty important change in the UI.  I would like to
>get a general vote to decide this.  See my separate message.
>
>- Carsten
Hi,
just a new user to org-mode, I apologize directly for jumping up and raise the 
hand ;)
Other Projects run a little smooth transitions if changes like that are going 
to be performed. 
Maybe it is in general interesting to create a protocol which will do 
something like

1. For the next n releases, both keys are present by default. However, using 
the arrow keys will create a warning message in the minibuffer ala
"The function of the arrow keys are obsolete please use n or p see xyz.org for 
more information"
2. After n releases it might be clear to the majority of all users and they 
either updated there conf-files for an individual solution or got used to the 
new style.
3. Perform the transition and "switch off" the obsolete keys


Just an idea

Greetings

Totti

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