From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Lundin Subject: Re: Re: RSI Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:34:27 -0400 Message-ID: <87vdjpcx6k.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <20524da70909011111p2d990274l89722cae104b9722@mail.gmail.com> <87iqg2h2bz.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87my57gk5e.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm84F-0001hj-B7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:29:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm84A-0001hI-LQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:29:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49865 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm84A-0001hB-9F for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:29:38 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:53854) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm849-0000qX-Ew for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:29:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87my57gk5e.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:48:45 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk Cc: Matt Lundin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric S Fraga , Eric S Fraga writes: > At Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:50:08 -0400, > Matt Lundin wrote: >> key. Thus, short of using viper, the only solution that works for me is >> to use the Caps Lock key as Control. With that slight modification, I >> find emacs controls *very* comfortable (perhaps even as comfortable than > > Yes, making caps lock act as control is key to using emacs without > pain (for me). However, it's not a full solution for some keyboards > which don't have a caps lock key. Therefore, I'm intrigued by your > reference to viper: is it possible to use, constructively and easily, > viper with org-mode? If so, any pointers on how to accomplish this > would be fantastic! A modal approach to writing/editing is fine with > me. Well, I'm sorry to say that org-mode was the reason I abandoned viper. It's probably a limitation of mine, but I found it too confusing to go back and forth between all the C-c keys and viper's modal commands. I also found the behavior of "dd" and the like to be unpredictable when called on closed outline headings, drawers, etc. I much prefer the behavior of C-k in org-mode's native keybindings. I imagine there are others around here who have gotten it working. IMO, viper is fine for relatively simple text modes. But for more complex modes, I found it easier to stick with emacs' native keybindings. YMMV. - Matt