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(was: Shower thought: submit an IETF RFC to register Org as a MIME type) In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGPFS98GsOx0sphNiEahP5MxdfMbEKRoHtrYt9Kp5mTTCg@mail.gmail.com> References: <m2r1cdx3a5.fsf@gmail.com> <87lf2k8ck1.fsf@localhost> <m2k0i416nu.fsf@gmail.com> <871r4bg8op.fsf@localhost> <CAF-FPGPFS98GsOx0sphNiEahP5MxdfMbEKRoHtrYt9Kp5mTTCg@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 22:21:42 +0800 Message-ID: <87v91nes95.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e; envelope-from=yantar92@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Cc: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita2@gmail.com>, org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" <emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org> X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634998865; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Ro+MQapwblMt2VsdHUCKGBRSVSRLP6bp6hD2SUJSU3o=; b=nn1JBQ5uzWBTKYQoD0xcEIfvAuE1JiVLf9YhYcNr3Jo4UFpomWSK4qw2sGsHMMIM3zo8wO vqCKZI8wg0nbJyZymmJLfOxG3lXCsJRFo6plLILIvFozuP0Z3V0lE31md6A/+tiKaEbxzt 3bZ0yLALRd/njWCYVbU3EGDhqFP5uou5zUpv/PvarQ9nGu4sYsA73aMgHKK8SKE5+fynhr mZ30szblhG+IJr/dJ71EomjZZO+zxRPbPnhE500dKIC41IdCKSD1MXcqAhdNuopY4uRsYm iJ13+peiiMq+PHGy1DLW1OLfYjJfXewtaJXF11mIDQI6+olJbKc17PnIxn3+Fw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634998865; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Q1i9K3hVrIkyE8HJhRpELKvNMwRQRRHZ3qBDC4rySLs1o+4hiu4VCbaQqwvGIdfkXgclk3 it3V/nINEh1luD34mBFJX9Br8GuPFhnR2ohfeodePKPT6o84Q6wVMrrt64NKr97NXUIO8c 2a6qwdTImxUNh4W8i1yDmN5RHomJpFLbkVUG5RZnzvrc8kGbNwEfOPWfz4eFBbt70BZNZm McF0a1BVK/NgnMJUtjN4/U/+qVaXI9cAOevdEPszdJxlgnag6IUPpPwzW1Bbv5bm83ckpU 89Q0a1rl49xjEbyqfTI+ZSi/OEoLgLgTMJwoTCxMcurr6KpSp5VO+7gvu+GuMg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ghDv4Bjw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ghDv4Bjw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3A7CA8D3B X-Spam-Score: -1.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: JiPMMArsJKdw "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: >> I just tried with clean Emacs: >> >> #+beg<complete -> #+begin_<complete> -> list of completions, all in lower case >> #+BEG<complete -> #+BEGIN_<complete> -> list of completions, all in upper case > > Perhaps at some point the upper case should just be removed? I am not sure if it is a good idea from backward compatibility point of view. On the other hand, we managed to change the property drawer default position. So, I do not see why it is impossible if most users prefer lower case. > This raises a related question I've wondered about: > > Why doesn't the completion insert the full begin/end, and put point inside? > > It's a bit of an awkward UX to add the end line ATM. Adding full begin/end may not be good idea for completion-at-point: 1. It becomes awkward i.e. to insert the source block language and arguments (#+begin_src my-super-cool-programming-language :var x=1) 2. completion-at-point usually does not behave in such way. Note that Org mode provides org-tempo doing exactly what you describe. Best, Ihor