From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id EL9hOB3G22ODDgAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 15:18:06 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id 4OphNx3G22MQzwAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 15:18:05 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8370137C7 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 15:18:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNaOg-000806-R2; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 09:17:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNaOa-0007xB-Js for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 09:17:04 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNaOY-0000qJ-G7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 09:17:00 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51AA624013A for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 15:16:55 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1675347416; bh=aVIEdBSMAFjy4WAW2Ht2Y/mlUcllmb9fp+GNBj5jDvE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=VqqAlX0n/LbiMA/8bkAtNjrTgpY4mIEHZIc0i02edZW5/nil6iTbOxepNoUlFyDah u0rU4LYmABRuoRinvj0WuS6aE7tL0vHH4ndPuKlZZxhMsxgCRbkVXEJUi10QX5+R2t Y2e6/vhM5yrecQ8757aWlHn9bpwgvwnDIB2CyMnvFuNz7xz25rV2561FoMYYEy0BhF 6UaA3tQaROUcFS/wlP/zAKbP4JZalhEBMVgPAffmT4Tx/qDahnhwMYnWYcbETCzU2e LCJSjvN9pKJet93iJnHkFLh1RPCGf0unXh5p+xpJ1OzPtW9fcjKkwELVoM0arG+1JB GjqHe0DVgrPCA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4P717T5zXwz9rxD; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 15:16:53 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Max Nikulin Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable In-Reply-To: References: <3218434.44csPzL39Z@linux.fritz.box> <860cca44-faa3-ce41-3606-f92b50ee00a9@gmail.com> <87a62bnf4t.fsf@localhost> <21750362.EfDdHjke4D@linux.fritz.box> <939b62c1-34ee-051e-405a-328b841d3d16@gmail.com> <875yculcim.fsf@localhost> <87pmaxe9fk.fsf@localhost> <87edrc3w6f.fsf@localhost> <871qnb2ked.fsf@MagnumOpus.khem> <51559ac9-9fce-8c0a-7800-f62ee654b752@gmail.com> <87r0v9jyj2.fsf@localhost> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2023 14:17:30 +0000 Message-ID: <87v8kknocl.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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In some cases > the only possibility for a window is to request attention. Creating new > frame may be more reliable. Window manager may still take measures > against focus stealing. I have heard that such feature exist, but I am > unsure concerning severity of such policy. That's usually up to user. > However I was writing a more annoying issue. Firefox may quietly swallow > attempt to launch external protocol handler. Even no message is spitted > to console like in the case of unknown protocol or throttling due to > multiple attempts during short interval of time. Emacs is completely > unaware of capture attempt in such case. Can Firefox extensions use DBUS? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at