* [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling
@ 2021-07-10 10:35 Rodrigo Morales
2021-07-10 18:39 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-07-11 12:28 ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rodrigo Morales @ 2021-07-10 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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* The issue
When setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t, an :ID: property is created
for each headline that contain at least one code block that is
tangled.
* Reproducing this issue
1. Start emacs -Q
2. Open a "*.org" file at a location where you have write permissions
(this is because, apparently, tangling only works when the file is
correctly saved so this way we get rid of this possible issue)
3. Insert the following minimal working example into the buffer (you can
find the Org Mode file attached to this mail)
#+BEGIN_SRC org
,* foo
,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
,#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
,#+END_SRC
,* bar
,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
,#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
,#+END_SRC
,* fizz
,#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
,#+END_SRC
#+END_SRC
4. Execute the following commands
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(require 'org-id)
(setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id t)
#+END_SRC
5. Now, execute org-babel-tangle (C-c C-v C-t).
At this point, a id property is created for the "foo" and "bar"
headlines because those are the only headlines that contain a code
block. This is what I got in emacs -Q
#+BEGIN_SRC org
,* foo
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: 358560b4-2426-4d42-a498-ae16195daf3a
:END:
,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
,#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
,#+END_SRC
,* bar
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: 02217461-a744-42b2-b582-1a836568d686
:END:
,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
,#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
,#+END_SRC
,* fizz
,#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
,#+END_SRC
#+END_SRC
* Personal thoughts
In my opinion, this is undesired behavior because the goal of
org-id-link-to-org-use-id isn't creating an ID property for each
headline when performing tangling.
* Major undesired consequences
The following is an scenario in which this issue causes major undesired
consequences: Consider the following scenario
+ you have 1000 headlines in an Org Mode file
+ all of those headlines don't have an ID property (because you are not
interested in uniquely identifying all of those headlines through an ID)
+ all of those headlines contain at least one code block that is tangled
Because of this issue, the following would be added for each headline
#+BEGIN_SRC org
,* my headline
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: <<an auto-generated id>>
:END:
#+END_SRC
and this have the following undesired consequences
+ You would end up with 3000 lines in your Org Mode file because of the
id properties even when you weren't interested in creating an ID for
each of those headlines.
+ You would have 1000 more entries in org-id-locations-file (again, even
where you weren't interested in creating an ID for each of those
headlines)
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* foo
#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
#+END_SRC
* bar
#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
#+END_SRC
* fizz
#+BEGIN_SRC text
a
#+END_SRC
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* Re: [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling
2021-07-10 10:35 [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling Rodrigo Morales
@ 2021-07-10 18:39 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-07-11 12:28 ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan McHugh @ 2021-07-10 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rodrigo Morales, emacs-orgmode; +Cc: bugs
Hi Rodrigo,
Regarding the problem of large content volumes and unique identifiers I thought Id CC Jean Marc Louis.
He has been building an Emacs approach to Hyperscope and has been considering this facet (and others).
=> https://hyperscope.link/
Perhaps he may have some input?
Jonathan McHugh
====================
indieterminacy@libre.brussels
July 10, 2021 12:36 PM, "Rodrigo Morales" <rodrigo.morales@utec.edu.pe> wrote:
> * The issue
>
> When setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t, an :ID: property is created
> for each headline that contain at least one code block that is
> tangled.
>
> * Reproducing this issue
>
> 1. Start emacs -Q
>
> 2. Open a "*.org" file at a location where you have write permissions
> (this is because, apparently, tangling only works when the file is
> correctly saved so this way we get rid of this possible issue)
>
> 3. Insert the following minimal working example into the buffer (you can
> find the Org Mode file attached to this mail)
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC org
> ,* foo
>
> ,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
> ,#+BEGIN_SRC text
> a
> ,#+END_SRC
>
> ,* bar
>
> ,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
> ,#+BEGIN_SRC text
> a
> ,#+END_SRC
>
> ,* fizz
>
> ,#+BEGIN_SRC text
> a
> ,#+END_SRC
> #+END_SRC
>
> 4. Execute the following commands
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
> (require 'org-id)
> (setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id t)
> #+END_SRC
>
> 5. Now, execute org-babel-tangle (C-c C-v C-t).
>
> At this point, a id property is created for the "foo" and "bar"
> headlines because those are the only headlines that contain a code
> block. This is what I got in emacs -Q
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC org
> ,* foo
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID: 358560b4-2426-4d42-a498-ae16195daf3a
> :END:
>
> ,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
> ,#+BEGIN_SRC text
> a
> ,#+END_SRC
>
> ,* bar
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID: 02217461-a744-42b2-b582-1a836568d686
> :END:
>
> ,#+HEADER: :tangle ~/Downloads/main.txt
> ,#+BEGIN_SRC text
> a
> ,#+END_SRC
>
> ,* fizz
>
> ,#+BEGIN_SRC text
> a
> ,#+END_SRC
> #+END_SRC
>
> * Personal thoughts
>
> In my opinion, this is undesired behavior because the goal of
> org-id-link-to-org-use-id isn't creating an ID property for each
> headline when performing tangling.
>
> * Major undesired consequences
>
> The following is an scenario in which this issue causes major undesired
> consequences: Consider the following scenario
>
> + you have 1000 headlines in an Org Mode file
>
> + all of those headlines don't have an ID property (because you are not
> interested in uniquely identifying all of those headlines through an ID)
>
> + all of those headlines contain at least one code block that is tangled
>
> Because of this issue, the following would be added for each headline
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC org
> ,* my headline
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID: <<an auto-generated id>>
> :END:
> #+END_SRC
>
> and this have the following undesired consequences
>
> + You would end up with 3000 lines in your Org Mode file because of the
> id properties even when you weren't interested in creating an ID for
> each of those headlines.
>
> + You would have 1000 more entries in org-id-locations-file (again, even
> where you weren't interested in creating an ID for each of those
> headlines)
>
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>
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* [PATCH] Re: [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling
2021-07-10 10:35 [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling Rodrigo Morales
2021-07-10 18:39 ` Jonathan McHugh
@ 2021-07-11 12:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-09-26 6:59 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2021-07-11 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rodrigo Morales; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Rodrigo Morales <rodrigo.morales@utec.edu.pe> writes:
> * The issue
>
> When setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t, an :ID: property is created
> for each headline that contain at least one code block that is
> tangled.
Confirmed
The fix is attached.
Best,
Ihor
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From 0ed6b52b8ded461ad6d172b9c2d49fd36d5df129 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
Message-Id: <0ed6b52b8ded461ad6d172b9c2d49fd36d5df129.1626006467.git.yantar92@gmail.com>
From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:25:21 +0800
Subject: [PATCH] Avoid creating ID property during tangling
* lisp/ob-tangle.el (org-babel-tangle-single-block,
org-babel-tangle-comment-links): Suppress org-id-link-to-org-use-id
during tangling. The links used during tangle process are transient
and do not really need to use ID. Using ID may create unexpected
edits in the tangled Org buffer when org-id-link-to-org-use-id is set
to t. Fixes [1].
[1] https://orgmode.org/list/9eb31da73b12fcaf6820484834cc8cd3@libre.brussels/T/#t
---
lisp/ob-tangle.el | 17 +++++++++++++++--
1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/ob-tangle.el b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
index 2f60ef9a4..cec658f66 100644
--- a/lisp/ob-tangle.el
+++ b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
@@ -420,7 +420,14 @@ (defun org-babel-tangle-single-block (block-counter &optional only-this-block)
(extra (nth 3 info))
(coderef (nth 6 info))
(cref-regexp (org-src-coderef-regexp coderef))
- (link (let ((l (org-no-properties (org-store-link nil))))
+ (link (let* (
+ ;; The created link is transient. Using ID is
+ ;; not necessary, but could have side-effects if
+ ;; used. An ID property may be added to
+ ;; existing entries thus creatin unexpected file
+ ;; modifications.
+ (org-id-link-to-org-use-id nil)
+ (l (org-no-properties (org-store-link nil))))
(and (string-match org-link-bracket-re l)
(match-string 1 l))))
(source-name
@@ -506,7 +513,13 @@ (defun org-babel-tangle-comment-links (&optional info)
(number-to-string
(line-number-at-pos))))
("file" . ,(buffer-file-name))
- ("link" . ,(org-no-properties (org-store-link nil)))
+ ("link" . ,(let (;; The created link is transient. Using ID is
+ ;; not necessary, but could have side-effects if
+ ;; used. An ID property may be added to
+ ;; existing entries thus creatin unexpected file
+ ;; modifications.
+ (org-id-link-to-org-use-id nil))
+ (org-no-properties (org-store-link nil))))
("source-name" . ,name))))))
(list (org-fill-template org-babel-tangle-comment-format-beg link-data)
(org-fill-template org-babel-tangle-comment-format-end link-data))))
--
2.31.1
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* Re: [PATCH] Re: [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling
2021-07-11 12:28 ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
@ 2021-09-26 6:59 ` Bastien
2023-07-29 7:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2021-09-26 6:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: Rodrigo Morales, emacs-orgmode
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
> The fix is attached.
Applied, thanks!
--
Bastien
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* Re: [PATCH] Re: [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling
2021-09-26 6:59 ` Bastien
@ 2023-07-29 7:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-08 12:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-29 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien, Evgenii Klimov; +Cc: Ihor Radchenko, Rodrigo Morales, emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The fix is attached.
>
> Applied, thanks!
In a recent feature request [1], one user expressed an interest in using
ID links during tangling, as they are more reliable wrt heading renames.
I am now re-considering this fix.
`org-id-link-to-org-use-id', apart from t, can be set to
'create-if-interactive, which could be used by people who do not want ID
links be created during tangling.
Rodrigo, would setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to
'create-if-interactive work for you?
[1] https://orgmode.org/list/874jlouytx.fsf@lipklim.org
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Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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* Re: [PATCH] Re: [bug] Setting org-id-link-to-org-use-id to t creates IDs properties when tangling
2023-07-29 7:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2023-08-08 12:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-08-08 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: Evgenii Klimov, Ihor Radchenko, Rodrigo Morales, emacs-orgmode
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> In a recent feature request [1], one user expressed an interest in using
> ID links during tangling, as they are more reliable wrt heading renames.
>
> I am now re-considering this fix.
>
> `org-id-link-to-org-use-id', apart from t, can be set to
> 'create-if-interactive, which could be used by people who do not want ID
> links be created during tangling.
Reverted, on main.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=a18ebc789
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Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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