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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1658475159; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=eqUr8iBwhV5Q6i6oqe0StSVElA/rNF4sWndalFxe2Ic=; b=Uy+PaVRyEtHgxGBrKns3TXELTBqXSK34CSSeuksnQXvECAo6mFzC8QFPNNtF5FXRv16vxl YHZJ9h7vBwazaFnTLATsj9x/Xjo1m6tFBiGs+eyKQp3XH7vIz6YQGbZnK/GW8mTZn/0WTG jaBPoMfU/I1Fji8Vljwi7M/hEV3OP6X1vxucpPm79vpsgdW1G77y4CeB9DpUqcE186/OfM PWJayPls8obqSNcRatdsocwbaVKSpI0WeSPj1ufX+210LvR71YUj8RgGVL2keEeaz1DDcO 3CtKhPllbhrxLQCXU+yqMPYg2BwCPtEd9mLJbTX+xrIhbEF+lbDXAUmeC+J/vQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1658475159; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=sghdGvQOjelQYNbFJEFWpXc8Y9453vbvtUSsdCVnnxFeQTCjvaUficyxPQBpRNkGA+J8RW oFoAMkchExS+WHc39SnLwr336vLm6nmqw0ABTLqH21ZL1kXAo6PtKy3HQCq3EuszaMkCMQ faQKZzG4IbsTXn8yKOnOFnH0YewxqmnOyH6t3292a7kZZYSk9a5Op5WtluSDNx5Ke0Ldgc lqvt9tLLPXa1lSsz3FPMyFvuj0y+Y0gKVkhe9L9tmZc1ckR3EOB/9Vnehwhhr2LYTfGGNU luq2d/nh32a+UEbwyndrPTCEsuZWd4pGa2C0U83EfODiHuZIauc0jpmgx+LqjQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.74 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 25F9A27A41 X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: NYeScUKcjCYS Greetings Munyoki. Munyoki Kilyungi writes: > Hi Jarmo! > > Jarmo Hurri anaandika: > >> I hereby volunteer to maintain ob-asymptote.el. > > Nice! > >> This file has been moved >> to org-contrib, but I would like it to be brought back into Org itself. >> >> I strongly feel that Asymptote is way too valuable as a scientific tool >> to be dropped out of Org. > Isn't this debatable? Yes, that is a good reason to be involved in these discussions. > TBH, this is the first time I'm hearing about it. I've looked it up, > and indeed it seems to be useful. For some reason, even people who would certainly benefit from Asymptote often have not heard of it. The developers do not really advertise. Asymptote is amazingly powerful and sophisticated. > That said, shouldn't this be in org-contrib? Too many features in a > tool - featurism - may be distracting, in the sense that you focus > more on your tool than work at hand. I do not understand this. Why would supporting a professional-level graphics programming language be distracting someone from their work when using Org? > And that said, to work around this, I reckon that's why (?) we have > org-contrib. You - the end user - install what you want/need. Yes, but whenever we split up support, we raise the threshold for the use of a combination of tools, in this case Org and Asymptote. Org is a very powerful publication tool. Does it not make complete sense to include support for a tool for creating professional-quality publication graphics? All the best, Jarmo