From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8DNeFF2yLGM4mgAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 21:07:09 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id 4LlWFF2yLGMrWgAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 21:07:09 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7CE415005 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 21:07:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38450 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obRXM-00085n-65 for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:07:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56192) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obPuv-0004Q9-5j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:23:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obPuu-0006uE-TB; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:23:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=ZOwd4FW1V6J2kS3yY5kMrJhe9Gf3/IPtkhRo0Nb96EU=; b=My93ApfW3L8caMJrSMeW sEPXFyato6kPWgyvTcN70n1fjNWuhJHZ7DSTzmzPEYdp4kVWOH0OLm63qZUi26v8TezE/FzFu5fDu QsR9kgwrGIYdeV+kO0EC2hjYhKHHWgsEyemlcdnceEcUvQvIitJc63Zf7fo7P+uefls50isHbPBG6 0gPLSEkygmcHf6Ju27piTwJl1KZoabZZpn8SOTZkrb4ljS/alU+dr+mW8rzIosZJGDn4f7wMScH8R hyN7OzcMtbCYjfOcNHw869VHhfqgMHPIwfUrImUdo4u5PamoqtHwuJ0co71Oks3LmMX1puJjl9M3r vs1xxGx2Os77JQ==; Received: from [185.24.184.132] (port=18466 helo=hal) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obPuu-0007wE-0C; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:23:16 -0400 Received: by hal (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 322011E0408; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 19:23:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Max Nikulin Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done In-Reply-To: (Max Nikulin's message of "Thu, 22 Sep 2022 22:07:17 +0700") Organization: GNU References: <871qs6ygmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkrasnla.fsf@localhost> <871qs6li9l.fsf@gnu.org> <874jx2wqgi.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 19:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87tu4z2uil.fsf@bzg.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1663873628; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ZOwd4FW1V6J2kS3yY5kMrJhe9Gf3/IPtkhRo0Nb96EU=; b=pJAvzF1Box48syqMtZrq2+lSg1AMwhMWVMa1FqDtAfJ5OJeqtmeyJCOTXII5TFFX2RFZ2/ j+3Too8tVHveVmctlpKqGA4MM1dQItkRj2HNDbZ4uQiazgTKdJFOD4B3ho006r6e063/4N NpDq3zS65NYiNpyl/ldYWe+ZCZJrBr1RscTVoSyE2kKZcoMYMvPo10Th9qGY/vzqj/4XUI bXC1diKASFBjtfGxS8FbkPhjZm8tgiyTpqmExWrGCfh4KT2Z0/2J3UgHvI3N8rCNyF3Hen wVOuEArfluJgs3cVCUus9AnSp8Sy1bEKd2+mvcOmR2+foUnH1b/uNfgJyR/k8Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1663873628; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Am7+eU3Ov+5vHms6ABKhyVX+9QBCd2w0CaofgTR/WmHt4yF6AEruO+AJFFU9vTiNIZi2JE LjDDCfYMnyPmX6g+sO7mtLVlqmWy4EDuy0FSH5A7DaMPMtjHfd4fFaESCY5SPOkHdPyxy1 Htj7orRxVDtphIpbPA3BQ2r84A174qON6ZoBUTRJfhzp4y9OHXA7cwVeceK6VgOaptgNH1 l31WYrrVGA6O0p0nwtA7zBUCsPKkRPuGeJP5hlPqO34WsQdh5h6yrKpzPicmH7Dv0MZZIw ehGn4U5OnOtqZjkQMIFfJvnhJQ3gmt4GuFJT+JWsDmLhiAOwgGbgsKQf5Rldxw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=My93ApfW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.05 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=My93ApfW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E7CE415005 X-Spam-Score: -5.05 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Ry1KDYcuh8ec Hi Max, Max Nikulin writes: > The updated page has > > alt="Install from ELPA" > > that likely should be "Install from GNU ELPA". Fixed, thanks. > I like that new link > leads directly to the Org package at GNU ELPA, earlier version had a > link to the site top page. +1! > However Firefox does not show tooltips (unlike for the Librepay link) > when mouse cursor is over new SVG images. I have no idea if > screenreaders will use value of the alt attributes. I added title="" properties. > I expect that some fraction of messages at this list will have "[BUG] > " subject literally. Perhaps "&body=..." may be > added with a template like "Org version: ___, Emacs version: ___" with > a note requesting subject more specific to the particular > problem. Some people still will not read it. Agreed -- I removed this mailto: link as suggestion in a previous reply to Tim... > An unrelated to the latest changes question. What is the supposed way > to reach https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html from site main page > (to become aware of M-x `org-submit-bug-report'? ... and placed the https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html link as the target of the "feedback" svg icon. I also added the M-x org-submit-bug-report RET exlpicitely, as it is something we want users to discover very soon. Thanks! -- Bastien