From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 16:55:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tu3ywi2t.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65a1c205-cd18-4abe-b36d-a93763d7f5e8@gmail.com> (Max Nikulin's message of "Thu, 20 Oct 2022 00:07:54 +0700")
Max Nikulin writes:
> I have started a discussion requesting for a \\-like command without
> optional arguments. Maybe somebody will suggest a better workaround
> instead.
> https://github.com/lvjr/tabularray/discussions/321
I've had a look at the thread. What do you think of that
\NewTableCommand\empty{} workaround mentioned at
https://github.com/lvjr/tabularray/discussions/321#discussioncomment-3920957?
Since the \empty option only has problems in tabularray, maybe we could
keep it, and put in the documentation some recommendations for
tabularray users. I imagine they would have to add a @@latex:\empty@@
before each row that follows a line. A bit laborious, I'm afraid.
Another possibility that occurs to me is that the string reserved for
\empty, [0pt], etc., is a defcustom, with a value of \empty by default.
So the user would choose what suits him best.
By the way (a little digression), I was curious to see if these age-old
LaTeX problems with line breaking exist in ConTeXt as well. Since I'm
completely unfamiliar with ConTeXt, the quickest thing to do has been to
see what code ox-context returns for the org tables. The answer is that
there are no such problems, and one can safely put a square bracket at
the beginning of a row. It is also true that the table syntax in ConTeXt
is radically different from that in LaTeX. And there is also no problem
if I put @@context:a\[b]@@. Some screenshots:
https://i.imgur.com/2k1TaU9.png
https://i.imgur.com/8i9qlEH.png
Many times I've been tempted to give ConTeXt a try, but I've always run
into two things: ConTeXt's perennially experimental status and a
horrible lack of documentation. In addition, backward compatibility is
not usually respected, since ConTeXt, although it is free software, does
not have community development as a priority, but rather the company
behind it, Pragma.
>> I've tried all the packages involved in tables that I can think of
>> (longtable, siunitx, tabularx, booktabs, array, and I don't know if I
>> forgot any) and in all of them the \empty solution works fine. It seems
>> that tabularray is the black sheep here.
>
> I think tabularray is unique with a regexp-based parser. I had a hope
> that new approach does not allow newline between \\ and its arguments,
> but unfortunately compatibility with older code is preserved in this
> aspect.
>
> From LaTeX companion I remember supertabular as an alternative for
> longtable, but I am unsure if it is alive yet.
True, I had forgotten about this package (I don't think I've ever used
it). It looks like it has a 2020 new version:
@manual{supertabular,
title = {The \texttt{supertabular} package},
subtitle = {A multi-page tables package},
author = {Johannes L. Braams},
date = {2020-02-02},
version = {4.1g},
license = {lppl1.3c},
url = {https://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/supertabular},
pkgurl = {https://ctan.org/pkg/supertabular},
}
(bibtex entry obtained from: https://www.ctan.org/pkg/ctan-bibdata)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-20 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-15 21:35 [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 3:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-16 12:08 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 15:04 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-16 16:33 ` Verse block and separations (was: [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX) Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 8:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 9:39 ` Verse block and separations Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 14:48 ` Verse block and separations (was: [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX) Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 11:08 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 11:24 ` Verse block and separations Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 17:14 ` Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export (was: [bug] `org-latex-line-break-safe' breaks the export of verse blocks to LaTeX) Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 9:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 11:30 ` Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 11:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 12:27 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 15:01 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 16:46 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-17 18:04 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-18 4:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 14:23 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-19 3:57 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-19 5:11 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 11:16 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-19 12:30 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-19 17:07 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-20 16:55 ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2022-10-21 3:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-21 16:38 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-21 19:32 ` Juan Manuel Macías
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2022-10-20 17:07 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-29 2:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-13 17:01 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-18 4:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-19 17:12 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-20 5:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-20 17:15 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-21 3:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-21 16:32 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-22 5:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-22 12:26 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-22 15:55 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-01 1:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-01 16:07 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-02 6:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-02 6:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-02 15:27 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-03 6:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-03 15:00 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-11-03 15:33 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-03 15:48 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-11-04 4:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-04 5:40 ` Max Nikulin
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