John

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John Kitchin
Associate Professor
Dohe= rty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon Uni= versity
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Andreas= Reuleaux <andreas@a-rx.info> wrote:

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> C-c ] should be bound by default to org-ref-insert-cite-link. It is de= fined
> in a hook function in line 104 of org-ref.org.
>
> I made a custom variable to store the key-binding, but I realized it > probably doesn't help, since the binding
>
>
>>
>> 1. C-u on it does not give me a choice of citation method
>>
>
> If you type C-u M-x =C2=A0org-ref-insert-cite-link
>
> do you get a choice?
>
> I just tried this on a fresh pull and it does work for me. I am not su= re
> why this wouldn't work for you. =C2=A0Do you tangle the .el file f= rom the .org
> file? I have this code somewhere else to build it when needed:

I can confirm that C-c ] and C-u C-c ]
work fine for me.

my setup if fairly simple (with org-ref.el tangled from org-ref.org)

=C2=A0 (require 'org-ref)

=C2=A0 (custom-set-variables
=C2=A0 =C2=A0'(org-ref-bibliography-notes "notes.org")
=C2=A0 =C2=A0'(org-ref-default-bibliography =C2=A0(list "refs.bib&= quot;))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0;; '(org-ref-pdf-directory "...")
=C2=A0 =C2=A0;; '(org-ref-default-citation-link "...")
=C2=A0 =C2=A0;; '(org-ref-insert-cite-key "...")
=C2=A0 =C2=A0)

looking forward to discover more of org-ref.

FWIW, I was using textcite:... (with biblatex) as well, helped myself by just inserting a cite:... and then changing the link with C-c C-l from
cite to textcite. But I really need read up on all those different
citations commands once more, maybe textcite is not really necessary?
Could I add it somehow to the list of choices available in "C-u C-c ]&= quot; ?
(I realized there are citetext, citep*, citep as well, that I yet have
to discover).

By the way: the org-ref.or= g literate programming docs are fine
for someone interested in the gory details / relatively experienced.
Ist there a simpler document just describing its usage - that
you would hand out to your chemistry students e. g. ?

Somehting maybe explaining the differences from the other approaches
that can be found e g in

=C2=A0 http://tincman.= wordpress.com/2011/01/04/research-paper-management-with-emacs-org-mode-and-= reftex/

=C2=A0 http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/2012/03/23/ho= w-to-manage-and-export-bibliographic-notesrefs-in-org-mode/

Thanks for org-ref.

-Andreas

--089e0122999086060904f93ef087-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:00:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40363) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkBuC-0000u9-3v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 08:34:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkBu4-0007rz-L3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 08:34:00 -0400 Received: from mail-db3on0059.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([157.55.234.59]:45280 helo=emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkBu4-0007qI-CP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 08:33:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: (John Kitchin's message of "Mon, 12 May 2014 13:26:26 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" On Monday, 12 May 2014 at 13:26, John Kitchin wrote: > that should work out of the box, and that link is defined in org-ref as > > (org-add-link-type > "cite" > 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu > 'org-ref-cite-link-format) And I used to have my own already in any case. > > I am not sure why it would not work out of the box. Neither do I. The more annoying thing is that I cannot get org-ref to work at all with emacs -q and a minimal org document. Would you maybe post the minimum setup for getting org-ref to work, along with a minimal org document? thanks, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 14:51:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d14c469d91b04f94c8df4 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkHna-0001hZ-LA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 14:51:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkHnZ-0007UX-EE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 14:51:34 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]:49885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkHnZ-0007UT-4D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 14:51:33 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id m15so816775wgh.8 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:51:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --089e013d14c469d91b04f94c8df4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You can see a document I wrote using org-ref here: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/org/2014/05/13/Using-org-ref-for-citations-and-references.org You will want to pull a current version. I added some code so it is in principle easy for you to add your own citation types and use the org-ref machinery to insert citations. I made a little screencast here: http://screencast.com/t/bxfafVydE j John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Monday, 12 May 2014 at 13:26, John Kitchin wrote: > > that should work out of the box, and that link is defined in org-ref as > > > > (org-add-link-type > > "cite" > > 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu > > 'org-ref-cite-link-format) > > And I used to have my own already in any case. > > > > > I am not sure why it would not work out of the box. > > Neither do I. The more annoying thing is that I cannot get org-ref to > work at all with emacs -q and a minimal org document. Would you maybe > post the minimum setup for getting org-ref to work, along with a minimal > org document? > > thanks, > eric > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559 > --089e013d14c469d91b04f94c8df4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You can see a document I wrote using org-re= f here: http://kitchingr= oup.cheme.cmu.edu/org/2014/05/13/Using-org-ref-for-citations-and-references= .org

You will want to pull a current version. I added some code so it = is in principle easy for you to add your own citation types and use the org= -ref machinery to insert citations.

I made a little screen= cast here: http://screencast.= com/t/bxfafVydE

John=

-----------------------------------
John Kitchin
Associate Pr= ofessor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carn= egie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

<= /div>

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Eric S = Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:

On Monday, 12 May 2014 at 13:26, John Kitchin wrote:
> that should work out of the box, and that link is defined in org-ref a= s
>
> (org-add-link-type
> =C2=A0"cite"
> =C2=A0'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu
> =C2=A0'org-ref-cite-link-format)

And I used to have my own already in any case.

>
> I am not sure why it would not work out of the box.

Neither do I. =C2=A0The more annoying thing is that I cannot get org-= ref to
work at all with emacs -q and a minimal org document. =C2=A0Would you maybe=
post the minimum setup for getting org-ref to work, along with a minimal org document?

thanks,
eric

--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559=

--089e013d14c469d91b04f94c8df4-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 21:01:15 +0100 Message-ID: <877g5p5tys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53583) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkItC-0001Ho-9a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:01:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkIt6-0005oI-6N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:01:26 -0400 Received: from mail-db3on0055.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([157.55.234.55]:60672 helo=emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkIt5-0005o7-T8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:01:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (John Kitchin's message of "Tue, 13 May 2014 14:51:32 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" On Tuesday, 13 May 2014 at 14:51, John Kitchin wrote: > You can see a document I wrote using org-ref here: > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/org/2014/05/13/Using-org-ref-for-citations-and-references.org > > You will want to pull a current version. I added some code so it is in > principle easy for you to add your own citation types and use the org-ref > machinery to insert citations. Thanks for this. It didn't work but I have now figured out why! Your code requires dash version 2.6.0 and I had version 2.4.0. The need for the latest version is noted in a comment in your code but the code itself doesn't check (and probably cannot?). With 2.6.0, I'm much further! Links are now recognised properly. I still have a problem in that a very minimal file, with one cite: link and a bibliography: link, doesn't compile because bibtex complains of no \bibstyle. Not sure why it's complaining but I will continue debugging. thanks, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559-git From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 21:11:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkJ3H-000789-JI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:11:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkJ39-0000fv-R4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:11:51 -0400 Received: from mail-am1lp0012.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([213.199.154.12]:28585 helo=emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkJ39-0000fd-IC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:11:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: (John Kitchin's message of "Tue, 13 May 2014 14:51:32 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" John, another data point. When I try to load an org file, once org-ref is loaded, I get the following problem: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) re-search-forward(nil 10001 t) tex-main-file() reftex-TeX-master-file() reftex-tie-multifile-symbols() reftex-access-scan-info((16)) reftex-parse-all() (and (buffer-file-name) (file-exists-p (buffer-file-name)) (global-auto-revert-mode t) (reftex-parse-all)) org-mode-reftex-setup() run-hooks(change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook) apply(run-hooks (change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook)) run-mode-hooks(org-mode-hook) Because of this, org-ref doesn't get initialised properly. Any idea what may be causing this? Do I need to configure auctex or similar? thanks, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559-git From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Reuleaux Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 00:33:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkMEt-0003jy-8y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:36:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkMEm-0000m9-Fz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:36:03 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkMEm-0000lt-5T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:35:56 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkMEi-0005bd-OY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:35:52 +0200 Received: from stu826b.kent.ac.uk ([129.12.130.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:35:52 +0200 Received: from andreas by stu826b.kent.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:35:52 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org John Kitchin writes: > You can see a document I wrote using org-ref here: > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/org/2014/05/13/Using-org-ref-for-citations-and-references.org > > You will want to pull a current version. I added some code so it is in > principle easy for you to add your own citation types and use the org-ref > machinery to insert citations. > > > I made a little screencast here: http://screencast.com/t/bxfafVydE > Thanks for the sample file and the screencast, very nice. still a bit confused about org-ref-cite-types: Say, I want to add two new link types: textcite - somehow standard in biblatex, cf. the biblatex.pdf manual, p 81 citeauthorfull - my own creation - author with first- and lastname, cf below. from my document.org I load some latex preparation stuff like this #+LaTeX_HEADER: \include{ltxhdr} I was just getting tired of prefixing so many lines with #+LaTeX_HEADER: and collected some of those in a lxthdr.tex file. there I have prepared something for this citeauthorfull thingy: %% cf %% http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/24979/citing-authors-full-name-in-biblatex %% called citeauthorfirstlast... there \DeclareCiteCommand{\citeauthorfull} {\boolfalse{citetracker}% \boolfalse{pagetracker}% \DeclareNameAlias{labelname}{first-last}% \usebibmacro{prenote}} {\ifciteindex {\indexnames{labelname}} {}% \printnames{labelname}} {\multicitedelim} {\usebibmacro{postnote}} this does the job, don't ask me details. now back to org-ref: with your advice I add: ;; add new format (setf (nth 2 (assoc 'org reftex-cite-format-builtin)) (append (nth 2 (assoc 'org reftex-cite-format-builtin)) '( ;; C-t like text (?\C-t . "textcite:%l") ;; f like full (?f . "citeauthorfull:%l") ))) and I get the comfort of two additional citation formats to chose from when typing C-u C-c ] - nice, indeed. this is basically what you said in your e-mail before, now also on the org-ref.org webpage, (just shortcut and don't define that format variable) Now I can add these: (add-to-list 'org-ref-cite-types "textcite") (add-to-list 'org-ref-cite-types "citeauthorfull") but this is of limited use to me currently, at least I don't get the point, not sure if I am doing something wrong: say, I have added a few of these textcite:foo citeauthorfull:bar in my document.org, there are some problems with these: * first: they don't appear blue and clickable in my document.org * second: they don't get exported in the latex in a reasonable way, they appear there just as textcite:foo citeauthorfull:bar Well I can cure the situation by adding by adding (org-add-link-type "textcite" 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu ;; formatting (lambda (keyword desc format) (cond ((eq format 'html) (format "(%s)" path)) ((eq format 'latex) (concat "\\textcite{" (mapconcat (lambda (key) key) (org-ref-split-and-strip-string keyword) ",") "}"))))) (org-add-link-type "citeauthorfull" 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu ;; formatting (lambda (keyword desc format) (cond ((eq format 'html) (format "(%s)" path)) ((eq format 'latex) (concat "\\citeauthorfull{" (mapconcat (lambda (key) key) (org-ref-split-and-strip-string keyword) ",") "}"))))) now they appear clickable in blue, and get properly exported to \textcite{...} and \citeauthorfull{...} Now, what was the deal of this adding them to 'org-ref-cite-types in the first place, if I had to take care of the details by hand anyway? Is there anything I could have left out / shortcut / I have forgotten maybe? Thanks. -Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 20:28:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c258dcf890ee04f95142fa Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkN3p-0004oE-27 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 20:28:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkN3n-0002JT-Pt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 20:28:41 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]:36268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkN3m-0002JC-Vo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 20:28:39 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x12so1135944wgg.6 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 17:28:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --001a11c258dcf890ee04f95142fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 interesting. I do have auxtex installed, but I don't think I configure it anywhere. I do require reftex and reftex-cite in my init files. I also set the default reftex bibliography. (setq reftex-default-bibliography '("~/Dropbox/bibliography/references.bib")) I will try to reproduce this tomorrow. John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > John, > > another data point. When I try to load an org file, once org-ref is > loaded, I get the following problem: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > re-search-forward(nil 10001 t) > tex-main-file() > reftex-TeX-master-file() > reftex-tie-multifile-symbols() > reftex-access-scan-info((16)) > reftex-parse-all() > (and (buffer-file-name) (file-exists-p (buffer-file-name)) > (global-auto-revert-mode t) (reftex-parse-all)) > org-mode-reftex-setup() > run-hooks(change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook > outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook) > apply(run-hooks (change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook > outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook)) > run-mode-hooks(org-mode-hook) > > Because of this, org-ref doesn't get initialised properly. > > Any idea what may be causing this? Do I need to configure auctex or > similar? > > thanks, > eric > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org > release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559-git > --001a11c258dcf890ee04f95142fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

interesting. I do have auxtex installed, but I don= 9;t think I configure it anywhere. I do require reftex and reftex-cite in m= y init files. I also set the default reftex bibliography.

(setq reft= ex-default-bibliography '("~/Dropbox/bibliography/references.bib&q= uot;))

I will try to reproduce this tomorrow.

John

------------------------------= -----
John Kitchin
Associate Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Depar= tment of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingr= oup.cheme.cmu.edu

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Eric S = Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:

John,

another data point. =C2=A0When I try to load an org file, once org-ref is loaded, I get the following problem:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
=C2=A0 re-search-forward(nil 10001 t)
=C2=A0 tex-main-file()
=C2=A0 reftex-TeX-master-file()
=C2=A0 reftex-tie-multifile-symbols()
=C2=A0 reftex-access-scan-info((16))
=C2=A0 reftex-parse-all()
=C2=A0 (and (buffer-file-name) (file-exists-p (buffer-file-name)) (global-a= uto-revert-mode t) (reftex-parse-all))
=C2=A0 org-mode-reftex-setup()
=C2=A0 run-hooks(change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook outline-m= ode-hook org-mode-hook)
=C2=A0 apply(run-hooks (change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook ou= tline-mode-hook org-mode-hook))
=C2=A0 run-mode-hooks(org-mode-hook)

Because of this, org-ref doesn't get initialised properly.

Any idea what may be causing this? =C2=A0Do I need to configure auctex or similar?

thanks,
eric

--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559= -git

--001a11c258dcf890ee04f95142fa-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 20:38:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7ffe680d8104f951664c Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57015) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkNDQ-0007bx-CZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 20:38:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkNDO-0005XF-B0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 20:38:36 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]:34215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkNDN-0005X7-Ro for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 20:38:34 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id u56so1183451wes.28 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 17:38:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Reuleaux Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --f46d043c7ffe680d8104f951664c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 with the most recent org-ref, it should be sufficient to put this in your init file: (org-ref-define-citation-link "textcite" ?I) (org-ref-define-citation-link "citeauthorfull" ?F) this will create a textcite link and create a reftex menu you select with the key I, and the other link with the key F. these should automatically be links, and have completion functions. These will get exported as \textcite{label} and \citeauthorfull{label}. The org-ref-define-citation-link function adds the link, creates the functions necessary, and adds the types to the right places. You do not need to do the manual additions unless you manually define the link like you did with org-add-link-type. John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Andreas Reuleaux wrote: > John Kitchin writes: > > > You can see a document I wrote using org-ref here: > > > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/org/2014/05/13/Using-org-ref-for-citations-and-references.org > > > > You will want to pull a current version. I added some code so it is in > > principle easy for you to add your own citation types and use the org-ref > > machinery to insert citations. > > > > > > I made a little screencast here: http://screencast.com/t/bxfafVydE > > > > Thanks for the sample file and the screencast, very nice. > > still a bit confused about org-ref-cite-types: > > Say, I want to add two new link types: > > > textcite - somehow standard in biblatex, > cf. the biblatex.pdf manual, p 81 > > citeauthorfull - my own creation - author with first- and lastname, > cf below. > > > from my document.org I load some latex preparation stuff like this > > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \include{ltxhdr} > > I was just getting tired of prefixing so many lines with #+LaTeX_HEADER: > and collected some of those in a lxthdr.tex file. > there I have prepared something for this citeauthorfull thingy: > > > %% cf > %% > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/24979/citing-authors-full-name-in-biblatex > %% called citeauthorfirstlast... there > > > \DeclareCiteCommand{\citeauthorfull} > {\boolfalse{citetracker}% > \boolfalse{pagetracker}% > \DeclareNameAlias{labelname}{first-last}% > \usebibmacro{prenote}} > {\ifciteindex > {\indexnames{labelname}} > {}% > \printnames{labelname}} > {\multicitedelim} > {\usebibmacro{postnote}} > > this does the job, don't ask me details. > > now back to org-ref: > > with your advice I add: > > ;; add new format > (setf (nth 2 (assoc 'org reftex-cite-format-builtin)) > (append (nth 2 (assoc 'org reftex-cite-format-builtin)) > '( > > ;; C-t like text > (?\C-t . "textcite:%l") > > > ;; f like full > (?f . "citeauthorfull:%l") > > ))) > > and I get the comfort of two additional citation formats to chose from > when typing C-u C-c ] - nice, indeed. this is basically what you > said in your e-mail before, now also on the org-ref.org webpage, > (just shortcut and don't define that format variable) > > Now I can add these: > > (add-to-list 'org-ref-cite-types "textcite") > (add-to-list 'org-ref-cite-types "citeauthorfull") > > but this is of limited use to me currently, at least I don't get > the point, not sure if I am doing something wrong: > > say, I have added a few of these > > textcite:foo > > citeauthorfull:bar > > in my document.org, there are some problems with these: > > * first: they don't appear blue and clickable in my document.org > > * second: they don't get exported in the latex in a reasonable way, > they appear there just as > > textcite:foo > citeauthorfull:bar > > Well I can cure the situation by adding by adding > > > (org-add-link-type > "textcite" > 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu > ;; formatting > (lambda (keyword desc format) > (cond > ((eq format 'html) (format "(%s)" path)) > ((eq format 'latex) > (concat "\\textcite{" > (mapconcat (lambda (key) key) (org-ref-split-and-strip-string > keyword) ",") > "}"))))) > > > > (org-add-link-type > "citeauthorfull" > 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu > ;; formatting > (lambda (keyword desc format) > (cond > ((eq format 'html) (format "(%s)" > path)) > ((eq format 'latex) > (concat "\\citeauthorfull{" > (mapconcat (lambda (key) key) (org-ref-split-and-strip-string > keyword) ",") > "}"))))) > > > now they appear clickable in blue, and get properly exported > to \textcite{...} and \citeauthorfull{...} > > Now, what was the deal of this adding them to 'org-ref-cite-types > in the first place, if I had to take care of the details by hand anyway? > Is there anything I could have left out / shortcut / I have forgotten > maybe? > > Thanks. > > -Andreas > > > --f46d043c7ffe680d8104f951664c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

with the most recent org-ref, it should be suffi= cient to put this in your init file:

(org-ref-define-citation-link &= quot;textcite" ?I)

(org-ref-define-citation-link "c= iteauthorfull" ?F)

this will create a textcite link and create a reftex menu you sel= ect with the key I, and the other link with the key F. these should automat= ically be links, and have completion functions. These will get exported as = \textcite{label} and \citeauthorfull{label}. The org-ref-define-citation-li= nk function adds the link, creates the functions necessary, and adds the ty= pes to the right places.

You do not need to do the manual additions unless you manually de= fine the link like you did with org-add-link-type.

John

----------------------------= -------
John Kitchin
Associate Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of = Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213<= br>412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Andreas= Reuleaux <andreas@a-rx.info> wrote:

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> You can see a document I wrote using org-ref here:
> http://kitchingroup= .cheme.cmu.edu/org/2014/05/13/Using-org-ref-for-citations-and-references.or= g
>
> You will want to pull a current version. I added some code so it is in=
> principle easy for you to add your own citation types and use the org-= ref
> machinery to insert citations.
>
>
> I made a little screencast here: http://screencast.com/t/bxfafVydE
>

Thanks for the sample file and the screencast, very nice.

still a bit confused about org-ref-cite-types:

Say, I want to add two new link types:

=C2=A0 textcite - somehow standard in biblatex,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cf. the biblatex.pdf manual= , p 81

=C2=A0 citeauthorfull - my own creation - author with first- and lastname,<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cf bel= ow.

from my document.org = I load some latex preparation stuff like this

=C2=A0 #+LaTeX_HEADER: \include{ltxhdr}

I was just getting tired of prefixing so many lines with #+LaTeX_HEADER: and collected some of those in a lxthdr.tex file.
there I have prepared something for this citeauthorfull thingy:

=C2=A0 %% cf
=C2=A0 %% http://tex.stackexchange.com= /questions/24979/citing-authors-full-name-in-biblatex
=C2=A0 %% called citeauthorfirstlast... there

=C2=A0 \DeclareCiteCommand{\citeauthorfull}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 {\boolfalse{citetracker}%
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\boolfalse{pagetracker}%
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\DeclareNameAlias{labelname}{first-last}%
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\usebibmacro{prenote}}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 {\ifciteindex
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{\indexnames{labelname}}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{}%
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\printnames{labelname}}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 {\multicitedelim}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 {\usebibmacro{postnote}}

this does the job, don't ask me details.

now back to org-ref:

with your advice I add:

=C2=A0 ;; add new format
=C2=A0 (setf (nth 2 (assoc 'org reftex-cite-format-builtin))

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (append (nth 2 (assoc 'org reftex-cit= e-format-builtin))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 '(

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ;; C-t like = text
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (?\C-t =C2= =A0. "textcite:%l")

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ;; f like fu= ll
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (?f =C2=A0. = "citeauthorfull:%l")

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 )))

and I get the comfort of two additional citation formats to chose from
when typing C-u C-c ] - nice, indeed. this is basically what you
said in your e-mail before, now also on the org-ref.org webpage,
(just shortcut and don't define that format variable)

Now I can add these:

=C2=A0 (add-to-list 'org-ref-cite-types "textcite")
=C2=A0 (add-to-list 'org-ref-cite-types "citeauthorfull")

but this is of limited use to me currently, at least I don't get
the point, not sure if I am doing something wrong:

say, I have added a few of these

=C2=A0 textcite:foo

=C2=A0 citeauthorfull:bar

in my document.org, t= here are some problems with these:

* first: they don't appear blue and clickable in my document.org

* second: they don't get exported in the latex in a reasonable way,
=C2=A0 they appear there just as

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 textcite:foo
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 citeauthorfull:bar

Well I can cure the situation by adding by adding

(org-add-link-type
=C2=A0"textcite"

=C2=A0'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu
=C2=A0;; formatting
=C2=A0(lambda (keyword desc format)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(cond

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ((eq format 'html) (format "(<textcite>%= s</textcite>)" path))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ((eq format 'latex)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(concat "\\textcite{"

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(mapconcat = (lambda (key) key) (org-ref-split-and-strip-string keyword) ",")<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"}")))))

(org-add-link-type
=C2=A0"citeauthorfull"

=C2=A0'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu
=C2=A0;; formatting
=C2=A0(lambda (keyword desc format)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(cond

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ((eq format 'html) (format "(<citeauthorful= l>%s</citeauthorfull>)" path))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ((eq format 'latex)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(concat "\\citeauthorfull{"

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(mapconcat = (lambda (key) key) (org-ref-split-and-strip-string keyword) ",")<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"}")))))

now they appear clickable in blue, and get properly exported
to \textcite{...} and \citeauthorfull{...}

Now, what was the deal of this adding them =C2=A0to 'org-ref-cite-types=
in the first place, if I had to take care of the details by hand anyway? Is there anything I could have left out / shortcut / I have forgotten maybe= ?

Thanks.

-Andreas

--f46d043c7ffe680d8104f951664c-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Reuleaux Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 04:39:37 +0100 Message-ID: <878uq5m3k6.fsf@a-rx.info> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57424) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQ4h-0003Rt-JM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:41:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQ4b-00066B-Hu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:41:47 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44901) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQ4b-000667-BX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:41:41 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQ4Y-0003oB-QM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:41:38 +0200 Received: from stu826b.kent.ac.uk ([129.12.130.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:41:38 +0200 Received: from andreas by stu826b.kent.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:41:38 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org John Kitchin writes: > with the most recent org-ref, it should be sufficient to put this in your > init file: > > (org-ref-define-citation-link "textcite" ?I) > (org-ref-define-citation-link "citeauthorfull" ?F) > > this will create a textcite link and create a reftex menu you select with > the key I, and the other link with the key F. these should automatically be > links, and have completion functions. These will get exported as > \textcite{label} and \citeauthorfull{label}. The > org-ref-define-citation-link function adds the link, creates the functions > necessary, and adds the types to the right places. > > You do not need to do the manual additions unless you manually define the > link like you did with org-add-link-type. > OK, I see, and works fine, thanks. One minor thing: Am I restricted to single-letter keystrokes above ? like: I ---- (...?I) F ---- (... ?F) C-t ---- (... ?\C-t) I tried to get working something like C-r C-t with something like this (... ?(kbd "C-r C-t")) with no success, but I am unsure, if there is just something simple missing like a quote or a backslash, or if it's just not possible at this point. -Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Reuleaux Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 04:58:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87r43xko53.fsf@a-rx.info> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60557) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQMS-0000gW-B8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 00:00:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQMM-0003x5-Sr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 00:00:08 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:39147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQMM-0003vy-NI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 00:00:02 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkQMJ-0002EV-Ud for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:59:59 +0200 Received: from stu826b.kent.ac.uk ([129.12.130.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:59:59 +0200 Received: from andreas by stu826b.kent.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:59:59 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric, I don't have auctex installed, and org-ref works fine for me. But I do run a recent self-compiled emacs 24 (haven't tested yet, if it works with my older emacs24 from debian as well), and I get updated packages like dash relatively often via cask ( https://github.com/cask/cask , http://cask.github.io/ ), i. e. I have in my Cask file (depends-on "dash") so it wouldn't have happend to me to have an outdated dash pkg, isolating your problem and pointing at what exactly is causing your trouble is of course more difficult (and creating a minimal config that works for me takes more time than I currently have, sorry). Hope this helps, nevertheless -Andreas Eric S Fraga writes: > John, > > another data point. When I try to load an org file, once org-ref is > loaded, I get the following problem: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > re-search-forward(nil 10001 t) > tex-main-file() > reftex-TeX-master-file() > reftex-tie-multifile-symbols() > reftex-access-scan-info((16)) > reftex-parse-all() > (and (buffer-file-name) (file-exists-p (buffer-file-name)) > (global-auto-revert-mode t) (reftex-parse-all)) > org-mode-reftex-setup() > run-hooks(change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook > outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook) > apply(run-hooks (change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook > outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook)) > run-mode-hooks(org-mode-hook) > > Because of this, org-ref doesn't get initialised properly. > > Any idea what may be causing this? Do I need to configure auctex or > similar? > > thanks, > eric From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 09:14:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> <878uq5m3k6.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f50309e3b556604f95bf5cb Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkZ0n-0000Fc-Ou for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 09:14:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkZ0m-0003by-Gh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 09:14:21 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]:58574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkZ0m-0003bo-6o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 09:14:20 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l18so1899234wgh.14 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 06:14:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878uq5m3k6.fsf@a-rx.info> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Reuleaux Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --e89a8f50309e3b556604f95bf5cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think you are restricted to single characters. That key is used by reftex, so it would be a limitation in reftex. You can always define your own function with a key-binding for something specific. John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Andreas Reuleaux wrote: > John Kitchin writes: > > > with the most recent org-ref, it should be sufficient to put this in your > > init file: > > > > (org-ref-define-citation-link "textcite" ?I) > > (org-ref-define-citation-link "citeauthorfull" ?F) > > > > this will create a textcite link and create a reftex menu you select with > > the key I, and the other link with the key F. these should automatically > be > > links, and have completion functions. These will get exported as > > \textcite{label} and \citeauthorfull{label}. The > > org-ref-define-citation-link function adds the link, creates the > functions > > necessary, and adds the types to the right places. > > > > You do not need to do the manual additions unless you manually define the > > link like you did with org-add-link-type. > > > > > OK, I see, and works fine, thanks. > > One minor thing: Am I restricted to single-letter keystrokes > above ? like: > > I ---- (...?I) > F ---- (... ?F) > C-t ---- (... ?\C-t) > > I tried to get working something like > > C-r C-t > > with something like this > > (... ?(kbd "C-r C-t")) > > with no success, but I am unsure, if there is just something simple > missing like a quote or a backslash, or if it's just not possible > at this point. > > -Andreas > > > --e89a8f50309e3b556604f95bf5cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think you are restricted to single characters. That key = is used by reftex, so it would be a limitation in reftex. You can always de= fine your own function with a key-binding for something specific.

John

-------------= ----------------------
John Kitchin
Associate Professor
Doherty Ha= ll A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon Universit= y
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

<= /div>

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Andrea= s Reuleaux <andreas@a-rx.info> wrote:

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> with the most recent org-ref, it should be sufficient to put this in y= our
> init file:
>
> (org-ref-define-citation-link "textcite" ?I)
> (org-ref-define-citation-link "citeauthorfull" ?F)
>
> this will create a textcite link and create a reftex menu you select w= ith
> the key I, and the other link with the key F. these should automatical= ly be
> links, and have completion functions. These will get exported as
> \textcite{label} and \citeauthorfull{label}. The
> org-ref-define-citation-link function adds the link, creates the funct= ions
> necessary, and adds the types to the right places.
>
> You do not need to do the manual additions unless you manually define = the
> link like you did with org-add-link-type.
>

OK, I see, and works fine, thanks.

One minor thing: Am I restricted to single-letter keystrokes
above ? like:

=C2=A0 I =C2=A0 =C2=A0---- (...?I)
=C2=A0 F =C2=A0 =C2=A0---- (... ?F)
=C2=A0 C-t =C2=A0---- (... ?\C-t)

I tried to get working something like

=C2=A0C-r C-t

with something like this

=C2=A0 (... ?(kbd "C-r C-t"))

with no success, but I am unsure, if there is just something simple
missing like a quote or a backslash, or if it's just not possible
at this point.

-Andreas

--e89a8f50309e3b556604f95bf5cb-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 09:17:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r43xko53.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428a6c72a78904f95c01dd Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51318) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkZ4A-0002o1-Go for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 09:17:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkZ44-0005BA-He for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 09:17:50 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]:63605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkZ44-0005Ay-85 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 09:17:44 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l18so1852239wgh.26 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 06:17:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r43xko53.fsf@a-rx.info> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Reuleaux Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --f46d04428a6c72a78904f95c01dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I also run emacs 24.3. nearly my whole setup is here: https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax If you are on windows, you should be able to clone that repository, and run jmax.bat which will run the emacs binary in that repository and load the jmax code which includes org-ref. You may not want to use my setup all the time, but it might help figure out what is different with your setup. For Macs or Linux, you just need to run something like "emacs -q -l path/to/jmax/init.el" to try it out. John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Andreas Reuleaux wrote: > Eric, > > I don't have auctex installed, and org-ref works fine for me. > > But I do run a recent self-compiled emacs 24 (haven't tested yet, > if it works with my older emacs24 from debian as well), > and I get updated packages like dash relatively often via cask > ( https://github.com/cask/cask , http://cask.github.io/ ), > i. e. I have in my Cask file > > (depends-on "dash") > > so it wouldn't have happend to me to have an outdated dash pkg, > isolating your problem and pointing at what exactly is causing your > trouble is of course more difficult (and creating a minimal config that > works for me takes more time than I currently have, sorry). > > Hope this helps, nevertheless > > > -Andreas > > > > Eric S Fraga writes: > > > John, > > > > another data point. When I try to load an org file, once org-ref is > > loaded, I get the following problem: > > > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > > re-search-forward(nil 10001 t) > > tex-main-file() > > reftex-TeX-master-file() > > reftex-tie-multifile-symbols() > > reftex-access-scan-info((16)) > > reftex-parse-all() > > (and (buffer-file-name) (file-exists-p (buffer-file-name)) > > (global-auto-revert-mode t) (reftex-parse-all)) > > org-mode-reftex-setup() > > run-hooks(change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook > > outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook) > > apply(run-hooks (change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook > > outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook)) > > run-mode-hooks(org-mode-hook) > > > > Because of this, org-ref doesn't get initialised properly. > > > > Any idea what may be causing this? Do I need to configure auctex or > > similar? > > > > thanks, > > eric > > > --f46d04428a6c72a78904f95c01dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I also run emacs 24.3.

nearly = my whole setup is here: https:= //github.com/jkitchin/jmax

If you are on windows, you shou= ld be able to clone that repository, and run jmax.bat which will run the em= acs binary in that repository and load the jmax code which includes org-ref= . You may not want to use my setup all the time, but it might help figure o= ut what is different with your setup.

For Macs or Linux, you just need to run something like "emac= s -q -l path/to/jmax/init.el" to try it out.

John

-----------------------------= ------
John Kitchin
Associate Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of = Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213<= br>412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Andrea= s Reuleaux <andreas@a-rx.info> wrote:

Eric,

I don't have auctex installed, and org-ref works fine for me.

But I do run a recent self-compiled emacs 24 (haven't tested yet,
if it works with my older emacs24 from debian as well),
and I get updated packages like dash relatively often via cask
( https://github= .com/cask/cask , h= ttp://cask.github.io/ ),
i. e. I have in my Cask file

=C2=A0 (depends-on "dash")

so it wouldn't have happend to me to have an outdated dash pkg,
isolating your problem and pointing at what exactly is causing your
trouble is of course more difficult (and creating a minimal config that
works for me takes more time than I currently have, sorry).

Hope this helps, nevertheless

-Andreas

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk= > writes:

> John,
>
> another data point. =C2=A0When I try to load an org file, once org-ref= is
> loaded, I get the following problem:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
> =C2=A0 re-search-forward(nil 10001 t)
> =C2=A0 tex-main-file()
> =C2=A0 reftex-TeX-master-file()
> =C2=A0 reftex-tie-multifile-symbols()
> =C2=A0 reftex-access-scan-info((16))
> =C2=A0 reftex-parse-all()
> =C2=A0 (and (buffer-file-name) (file-exists-p (buffer-file-name))
> (global-auto-revert-mode t) (reftex-parse-all))
> =C2=A0 org-mode-reftex-setup()
> =C2=A0 run-hooks(change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-hook
> outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook)
> =C2=A0 apply(run-hooks (change-major-mode-after-body-hook text-mode-ho= ok
> outline-mode-hook org-mode-hook))
> =C2=A0 run-mode-hooks(org-mode-hook)
>
> Because of this, org-ref doesn't get initialised properly.
>
> Any idea what may be causing this? =C2=A0Do I need to configure auctex= or
> similar?
>
> thanks,
> eric

--f46d04428a6c72a78904f95c01dd-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Reuleaux Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 18:39:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87lhu4l0oo.fsf@a-rx.info> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> <878uq5m3k6.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkdBF-0003LS-TB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 13:41:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkdB9-0004g4-Nn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 13:41:25 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34970) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkdB9-0004fp-I5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 13:41:19 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkdB8-0003HP-Jv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 19:41:18 +0200 Received: from stu826b.kent.ac.uk ([129.12.130.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 19:41:18 +0200 Received: from andreas by stu826b.kent.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 19:41:18 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org OK, thanks. -Andreas John Kitchin writes: > I think you are restricted to single characters. That key is used by > reftex, so it would be a limitation in reftex. You can always define your > own function with a key-binding for something specific. > > John From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 19:17:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87k39ojkc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42464) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wkdkk-0003c5-Ih for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 14:18:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wkdkd-0000yA-SJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 14:18:06 -0400 Received: from mail-db3lp0083.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([213.199.154.83]:4962 helo=emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wkdkd-0000wa-Ip for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 14:17:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (John Kitchin's message of "Tue, 13 May 2014 20:28:37 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Tuesday, 13 May 2014 at 20:28, John Kitchin wrote: > interesting. I do have auxtex installed, but I don't think I configure it > anywhere. I do require reftex and reftex-cite in my init files. I also set > the default reftex bibliography. > > (setq reftex-default-bibliography > '("~/Dropbox/bibliography/references.bib")) > > I will try to reproduce this tomorrow. Hi John, In case this helps, if I start emacs with -q and evaluate the contents of emacs-minimal.el (attached) and then visit orgref.org (attached), I can insert a reference (references.bib also attached) but the resulting latex doesn't work because bibtex complains about missing bibstyle. If I add the LaTeX directive to specify the bibliography style (as the attached file has), everthing works. This includes C-u C-c ] asking for type of citation. How do I specify the bibstyle for org-ref? When I say that everything works, it works with this minimal configuration but not yet in my full configuration. But that's my problem. Somehow, I am making the latex exporter not handle cite: links. Very strange. I'll get back to you on this in due course! I am actually using Emacs 24.4, not 24.3. I'm tracking emacs-snapshot which is the development version as I like to live dangerously ;-) thanks again for org-ref, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-958-g7c8559-git --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-org Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="orgref.org" # -*- org-latex-pdf-process: ("pdflatex %b" "bibtex %b" "pdflatex %b" "pdflatex %b") -*- #+title: test out org-ref * Introduction The paper by somebody cite:aaltola-2002 is most interesting. Also, autocite:aaltola-2002 is exciting. * References #+latex: \bibliographystyle{acm} bibliography:references.bib --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-bibtex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="references.bib" @Article{aaltola-2002, author = {J. Aaltola}, title = {Simultaneous synthesis of flexible heat exchanger network}, journal = {Applied Thermal Engineering}, year = 2002, volume = 22, number = 8, pages = {907-918} } --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="emacs-minimal.el" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/org-mode/lisp") (require 'org) (add-to-list 'load-path "~/s/emacs") (require 'org-ref) --=-=-=-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Reuleaux Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 20:03:24 +0100 Message-ID: <87a9akkwsj.fsf@a-rx.info> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87k39ojkc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57427) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkeUj-0007x5-Pt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:05:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkeUZ-0001Gl-Tq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:05:37 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkeUZ-0001Gg-No for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:05:27 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkeUX-0006Me-4p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 21:05:25 +0200 Received: from stu826b.kent.ac.uk ([129.12.130.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 21:05:25 +0200 Received: from andreas by stu826b.kent.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 21:05:25 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric S Fraga writes: > How do I specify the bibstyle for org-ref? I am not sure if I understand your question correctly and John certainly has more insight here, but I have in my org document #+LaTeX_HEADER: \include{ltxhdr} and within that ltxhdr.tex I have among other config settings \usepackage[backend=bibtex,style=authoryear]{biblatex} \addbibresource{refs.bib} I could have written several lines of #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage[backend=bibtex,style=authoryear]{biblatex} #+LaTeX_HEADER: \addbibresource{refs.bib} instead. There is no specific bibstyle of org-ref (correct, John?), that's the job of latex, you will be happy if: * your org mode has clickable citations links, * let's you insert citations in a comfortably manner * you can jump between refs and labels etc. * all of those citations get exported to their latex equivalents If for some reason your citations get exported to latex, say cite:foo to \cite{foo}, but still don't appear in your final pdf, than you have to tweek your latex settings, obviously. - Maybe forgot to call bibtex(8) on your document? I run these: * an emacs batch script, tex.el to get the document.tex from document.org * xelatex -8bit -shell-escape document.tex * bibtex8 document * xelatex document again, etc. You can check your latex toolchain independently from your org-ref config. HTH, -Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sharon Kimble Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 20:48:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87oaz09m5v.fsf@skimble.plus.com> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87k39ojkc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87a9akkwsj.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfAc-0008Hf-NH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:48:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfAU-0006lu-FM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:48:54 -0400 Received: from avasout07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]:49198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfAU-0006lT-7D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:48:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a9akkwsj.fsf@a-rx.info> (Andreas Reuleaux's message of "Wed, 14 May 2014 20:03:24 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Reuleaux Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andreas Reuleaux writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > > >> How do I specify the bibstyle for org-ref? > > > I am not sure if I understand your question correctly > and John certainly has more insight here, but I have in > my org document > > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \include{ltxhdr} > > and within that ltxhdr.tex I have among other config settings > > \usepackage[backend=3Dbibtex,style=3Dauthoryear]{biblatex} > \addbibresource{refs.bib} > > I could have written several lines of=20 > > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage[backend=3Dbibtex,style=3Dauthoryear]{biblatex} > #+LaTeX_HEADER: \addbibresource{refs.bib} > > instead. > > There is no specific bibstyle of org-ref (correct, John?), that's the > job of latex, you will be happy if: > > * your org mode has clickable citations links, > > * let's you insert citations in a comfortably manner > > * you can jump between refs and labels etc. > > * all of those citations get exported to their latex > equivalents > > If for some reason your citations get exported to latex, say > cite:foo to \cite{foo}, but still don't appear in your > final pdf, than you have to tweek your latex settings, > obviously. - Maybe forgot to call bibtex(8) on your document? > > I run these: > * an emacs batch script, tex.el to get the document.tex > from document.org > * xelatex -8bit -shell-escape document.tex > * bibtex8 document > * xelatex document > again, etc. > > You can check your latex toolchain independently from > your org-ref config. > > HTH, > -Andreas That seems a very long winded way round things! For your information this is a batch script that I'm using for generating a PDF in pure latex, and all I have to do is to cd to the directory where the files are, and then just enter "pdfbuild" in the command-line. It does all the rest itself, and you could easily adapt it for your circumstances =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- #!/bin/bash set -e #set -x #variables filename=3D"uh2014" ############# xelatex $filename biber $filename biber $filename xelatex $filename=20 biber $filename xelatex $filename=20 makeindex $filename makeindex $filename xelatex $filename makeglossaries $filename xelatex $filename xelatex $filename =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It handles and generates the references, the glossary, and the index as well as the body of the document.=20 All you have to do is enter your "foo.tex" where foo is the name of your generated tex file, and then let the script take over. Sharon. =2D-=20 A taste of linux =3D http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo =3D https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds =3D http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.91.1 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTc8iNAAoJEDaBgBkK+INbdigP/RiSZREIERxMUD7Na+cZHzro FRnq9Pj6JTuZTGSDidzDbHLeW/TBCj7BEn7Ta8A1ZJM4uSb6DD9MH1BilTAkZgQJ Lrb7fqRrv+pfwtj0Twi1PNyoWHq6bFWzbp1efmnbNsQ2iOd2rfUTNv6aGRhpVMUD KHHZqt916BoTMokL6MN2wno/zhH4gzGg5nOKdvFm+EBAEW7x7nO61KbOspLvGMPp Ga6hxYbF7iGDgpAahxN4ZmOnGErqLR9p1AZsa290F/t0fJQ8Y77/brGyAnYFZogy f/jARIahDCYb5WunpMIfMKG0jnlvFhF/mLkdvHPyIN/visdWJOqw0V2Yg6ab40AC 5mOm10v5MVkK3i5WnNeG2bT+/qAAwru1UfUE2K9F1DPE8PXN65Knb7JKhjP3avZn QMK4tEWBlRU/uCzsqkOCPwnEy6hSp3tZSud9zBsjA/FZxpH4O+KvZYK6bY3dcok8 v/PwLRogUtfwAMZ/Va8uko5xlaiKcjsM1sBGwsv2RI9c5iw6DiuioNQ6vhZwvcFv 2iPx+PLJCjhoNkgkR15F4tOXyi42nz3pSu6XDTwqd98EUitiYysksP7rR4Qb5ZsE QTpXTgSrkp16VbqJDPtOqcIuIFrmLkpmV4nGJF4DxZozILoiVSXek/9BJAOF/fPi hxjY3KQ2vx0ToUGxTPDj =z07v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Reuleaux Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 21:08:30 +0100 Message-ID: <874n0skts1.fsf@a-rx.info> References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zjil4ex1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87k39ojkc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87a9akkwsj.fsf@a-rx.info> <87oaz09m5v.fsf@skimble.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43391) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfVe-0000iG-57 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 16:10:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfVY-0005Fu-Ks for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 16:10:38 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfVY-0005FV-5J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 16:10:32 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkfVW-0000hN-Ha for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 22:10:30 +0200 Received: from stu826b.kent.ac.uk ([129.12.130.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 22:10:30 +0200 Received: from andreas by stu826b.kent.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 22:10:30 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Well, I know how to write shell scripts, and have something similar encoded in a shake file (haskell make replacement), for that matter, but prefer to have xelatex not called 5 times during every little development step. Anyway thanks a lot. My point here really was, that org-ref and the latex chains are separate and can be separately tested. -Andreas Sharon Kimble writes: > Andreas Reuleaux writes: > >> Eric S Fraga writes: >> >> >>> How do I specify the bibstyle for org-ref? >> >> >> I am not sure if I understand your question correctly >> and John certainly has more insight here, but I have in >> my org document >> >> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \include{ltxhdr} >> >> and within that ltxhdr.tex I have among other config settings >> >> \usepackage[backend=bibtex,style=authoryear]{biblatex} >> \addbibresource{refs.bib} >> >> I could have written several lines of >> >> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage[backend=bibtex,style=authoryear]{biblatex} >> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \addbibresource{refs.bib} >> >> instead. >> >> There is no specific bibstyle of org-ref (correct, John?), that's the >> job of latex, you will be happy if: >> >> * your org mode has clickable citations links, >> >> * let's you insert citations in a comfortably manner >> >> * you can jump between refs and labels etc. >> >> * all of those citations get exported to their latex >> equivalents >> >> If for some reason your citations get exported to latex, say >> cite:foo to \cite{foo}, but still don't appear in your >> final pdf, than you have to tweek your latex settings, >> obviously. - Maybe forgot to call bibtex(8) on your document? >> >> I run these: >> * an emacs batch script, tex.el to get the document.tex >> from document.org >> * xelatex -8bit -shell-escape document.tex >> * bibtex8 document >> * xelatex document >> again, etc. >> >> You can check your latex toolchain independently from >> your org-ref config. >> >> HTH, >> -Andreas > > That seems a very long winded way round things! For your information > this is a batch script that I'm using for generating a PDF in pure > latex, and all I have to do is to cd to the directory where the > files are, and then just enter "pdfbuild" in the command-line. It > does all the rest itself, and you could easily adapt it for your > circumstances > #!/bin/bash > set -e > #set -x > > #variables > filename="uh2014" > > ############# > xelatex $filename > biber $filename > biber $filename > xelatex $filename > biber $filename > xelatex $filename > makeindex $filename > makeindex $filename > xelatex $filename > makeglossaries $filename > xelatex $filename > xelatex $filename > > It handles and generates the references, the glossary, and the index > as well as the body of the document. > > All you have to do is enter your "foo.tex" where foo is the name of > your generated tex file, and then let the script take over. > > Sharon. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:35:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>