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Great to hear! I think this would probably be developed as a branch like wip-cite-new, and it would need transient to be installed (via ELPA?) on Emacs <28, but I think it has the potential to both: - Improve the user experience, and - Remove Org's own home-cooked transient-ish interfaces, so leave us with less code to watch over -- Timothy