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I can=E2=80=99t help but think that this line of thinking is a bit of a tra= p, because what LaTeX=E2=80=99s idea of a paragraph does not line up with Org=E2=80=99= s. I think the more pertinent consideration is that `\[ ... \]' changes LaTeX into vertical mod= e, which does not allow for any other content on the =E2=80=99line=E2=80=99 = =E2=80=94 which is far closer to Org=E2=80=99s concept of a block element than an inline element. Frankly, I think the issue is that the semantics of `\[ ... \]' simply don= =E2=80=99t play well with Org. Unfortunately, due to the Org/LaTeX difference I don=E2=80= =99t see any ideologically =E2=80=9Cpure=E2=80=9D way we can have it in Org. The most id= iomatic solution would be to just remove support for `\[ ... \]' *. Otherwise, we have to tr= eat `\[ ... \]' specially in if we want =E2=80=99sensible=E2=80=99 behaviour = =E2=80=94 as I mention in my reply to Nicolas, we=E2=80=99re already parsing it differently to other inl= ine markup=E2=80=A6 All the best, Timothy * However, I am not advocating for this: There=E2=80=99s both the obvious c= omparability issue, but I also rather like using `\[ ... \]' myself. --=-=-=--