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In-Reply-To: <87h6p6y8ma.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> References: <87o7omg4ie.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <87pm91ngb8.fsf@localhost> <87jzz8f3re.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <87mt43agk6.fsf@localhost> <874jq8ohbr.fsf@localhost> <87bkfip3mo.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0odrkbp.fsf@localhost> <528a8a8c-14a4-4d16-6aa0-1a9d76d45d15@vodafonemail.de> <87h6p6y8ma.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:37:48 +0000 Message-ID: <87sf8qt4fn.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8070D5F9F7 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.38 X-Spam-Score: -5.38 X-TUID: eC242ACqr7vz Nick Dokos writes: >> ... >> Probably the problem is not the side-effects done by loading >> =org-ctags=, but rather that these hook function from =org-ctags= try >> to do their job when the environment is not really ready for them, >> i.e. when there is no known tag file around. >> ... > > I disagree: the changes are done behind my back in an (almost) > invisible manner and leave me surprised and mystified. Even if there > was a TAGS file around, having links behave differently from one > moment to the next, when the only thing I did in-between was ask for > help on a completely unrelated Org mode function, is a nasty surprise. Sure, but we should not reject Jens' proposal just because of this argument. We can use the suggestions to improve org-ctags itself, after it is explicitly loaded. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at