From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Lawrence Subject: Re: Org release 8.2.5g (minor release from maint) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: <87r466ysea.fsf@berkeley.edu> References: <87k3dtsat8.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqhtywkx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87fvocbigv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87ios0vdnr.fsf@gmail.com> <8761ny2sj6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87ob1qf5br.fsf@gmail.com> <87siqxrfkr.fsf@gmail.com> <87eh2ho1bk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87d2i1e3fu.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqg7ug6a.fsf@gmail.com> <8738iubhb4.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87eh2exact.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87vbvijghj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46725) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO8Wg-0003j2-Q7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:30:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO8Wa-0006ZD-W0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:30:34 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.220.45]:49688) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO8Wa-0006Yz-Qb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:30:28 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id kl14so1346593pab.32 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87vbvijghj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Bastien, Bastien writes: > Any reason why Debian developers are not using 24.3 as the stable > version of Emacs? It has been out for now one year. Well, the way that the Debian stable release works is that they ship the latest stable version of a package which is available at the time of their pre-release "freeze". After the freeze, packages only receive updates for critical bugs and security fixes for the lifetime of the release. The current release (Debian Wheezy) was frozen on 2012-06-30 and released 2013-05-04. I think Emacs 24 probably just barely missed the Wheezy release, as 24.1 was released 2012-06-10. My guess is that the Debian maintainers either didn't consider 24.1 stable enough yet for Wheezy, or they just weren't sure and didn't want to take the chance. The next release (Jessie) is not yet frozen, and some post-24 Emacs will certainly be included when it is. Anyway, I don't think Org should be beholden to distributions' release cycles in general. Users like me who are happy with an older Emacs but want a newer Org are probably a very small minority (but speak up if you're out there!). And for these users, it is probably only a minor inconvenience to have to install cl-lib or a newer Emacs. That is at least true in my case. If introducing a dependency on cl-lib right now will be the best thing for Org, I have no real objections; if it can be put off for a while without significant cost, that would be great, but it isn't necessary. Best, Richard