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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Eric Wong Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=kfRUqr F; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=kyleam.com header.s=mesmtp header.b=ehjrLpUZ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: f7Eb6RVS8DYu [ adding Eric Wong back to the cc ] Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Eric Wong writes: >> Fwiw, I've been trying to avoid exposing NNTP article numbers in >> the HTTP endpoint in favor of Message-IDs because serial numbers >> aren't decentralization-friendly. Of course, sometimes >> Message-IDs get reused, so public-inbox will return all messages >> which match a particular Message-ID in those rare cases. >> >> Btw, POST with the "&x=m" query parameter already allows search >> to return a gzipped mboxrd. >> >> And also what I just wrote about about JMAP/GraphQL in the other >> message. >> >> A read-only IMAP server is also coming with search support, >> and IMAP UIDs will be equivalent to NNTP article numbers. > > Sounds like something in there is bound to work! IMAP might be best -- > while it's certainly possible to do Message-ID<->article number lookups, > that will slow Gnus down further, and it's already fairly slow. > > Thanks again, > Eric Here are the recent patches that Eric sent out related to the read-only IMAP server: https://public-inbox.org/meta/20200610070519.18252-1-e@yhbt.net It's already available at . I've played around with that a bit in Mutt and Gnus, and it seems to work nicely. As I mentioned before, I don't really search much in Gnus, but I tried some basic queries via GG and the results looked reasonable. I set this up for news.yhetil.org tonight. Here's what I used to test it out: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; Set so that all groups/folders aren't subscribed and synced. Think ;; I should be able to prevent that with `gnus-options-not-subscribe' ;; or `gnus-auto-subscribed-groups', but didn't have any luck. (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "news.yhetil.org" ;; no certs yet (nnimap-stream plain))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---