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[220.235.7.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z3sm1024032pfn.38.2020.11.26.16.43.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 26 Nov 2020 16:43:06 -0800 (PST) References: <87y2ive1i4.fsf@localhost> <878sauhhv1.fsf@web.de> <875z5ygwwr.fsf@web.de> <87r1olfvh4.fsf@web.de> <878sascg5j.fsf@localhost> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 27.1.50 From: Tim Cross To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Is Org really so simple? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.96 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fWaugDvr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: Kfsod962Kz+I David Rogers writes: > Jean Louis writes: > >> * Ihor Radchenko [2020-11-23 17:18]: >> :PROPERTIES: >> :CREATED: [2020-11-23 Mon 18:42] >> :ID: edebb3e7-e755-4ecc-a5e8-a3353a3f5fd0 >> :END: >>> Dear Jean Louis, >>> >>> Your description of the database reminds me how org-roam >>> handles the >>> files - it also uses an external database for linking and >>> allows quick >>> incremental search that does not really depend on where the >>> files/headings are stored. >> >> Sounds good, I can see there is graph database used. >> >>> However, what you are talking about is against org-mode >>> philosophy, >>> as I know it. >> >> Only philosophy I know is that it is plain text. Is there any >> official >> philosophy? I have no idea, at least manual does not give me >> references. I cannot find "philosophy", send me references. >> >> It says "to keep simple things simple". But Org is far far from >> being >> simple any more. It offers good principles, paradigms and people >> built >> many enhancements upon those. Speedily it becomes way much more >> than >> simple. > > Nothing was mentioned about keeping Org-mode simple. You=E2=80=99ve made a > bad misreading there. It said keeping *simple things* simple - in > other words, avoid taking a simple thing and making it > complicated. Things that really are complicated (=E2=80=9Cin real life=E2= =80=9D) > may *sometimes* be simplified, and that might be good - but =E2=80=9CMake > everything be simple=E2=80=9D is not a valid goal for any useful piece of > software. Often, a complicated thing must stay complicated. > =E2=80=9CEverything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.= =E2=80=9D - Einstein. -- Tim Cross